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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 11:49 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2015 at 11:51 am by dyresand.)
How about we strip religion from the power of marriage because in reality its governmental thing and a census thing the church doesn't need power over marriage.
Because lets get with it if two consenting same sex adults marry its on them let them be happy. Because you know equality and religion is not for equality over anything.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 11:55 am
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The point still stands, if you require different, more stringent circumstances for one over the other based on nothing more than homogeneity of gender, then it is still discrimination.
In the state in question, making a common law marriage recognized requires an inquiry presided by a judge. Meaning this bill would still give the judge the authority to deny even common law marriage based on the fact that a couple is same-sex.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 11:56 am
(January 25, 2015 at 11:55 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: The point still stands, if you require different, more stringent circumstances for one over the other based on nothing more than homogeneity of gender, then it is still discrimination.
In the state in question, making a common law marriage recognized requires an inquiry presided by a judge. Meaning this bill would still give the judge the authority to deny even common law marriage based on the fact that a couple is same-sex.
That's fucking stupid....
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 1:04 pm
I don't think you people understand. If *gay* people, those Devils, are allowed to get married, everyone will have to start being gay marriaged. Even little children, because gays are all pedophiles. Then God will rain hell-fire down upon us, and it shall be Armagaydon  *
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 1:25 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Roxy904 Wrote: I don't think you people understand. If *gay* people, those Devils, are allowed to get married, everyone will have to start being gay marriaged. Even little children, because gays are all pedophiles. Then God will rain hell-fire down upon us, and it shall be Armagaydon *
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You forgot the part where people are allowed to marry animals. Ah, those damned dirty dirty Welsh.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm
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Religious people seem to mistake same sex marriage being allowed for it being compulsory.
The "arguments" I hear against it are bad even by religion's standards. Why they are so obsessed with what other people are doing with their lives is what worries me the most. Mind your own fucking business!  We don't have to live our lives according to your fairy tale bullshit.
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm)robvalue Wrote: Religious people seem to mistake same sex marriage being allowed for it being compulsory.
The "arguments" I hear against it are bad even by religion's standards. Why they are so obsessed with what other people are doing with their lives is what worries me the most. Mind your own fucking business! We don't have to live our lives according to your fairy tale bullshit.
So ill stick in a toaster then everyone gets mad because that's not where you put it 
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 2:21 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm)dyresand Wrote: (January 25, 2015 at 1:28 pm)robvalue Wrote: Religious people seem to mistake same sex marriage being allowed for it being compulsory.
The "arguments" I hear against it are bad even by religion's standards. Why they are so obsessed with what other people are doing with their lives is what worries me the most. Mind your own fucking business! We don't have to live our lives according to your fairy tale bullshit.
So ill stick in a toaster then everyone gets mad because that's not where you put it
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 2:27 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Chas Wrote: (January 25, 2015 at 2:16 pm)dyresand Wrote: So ill stick in a toaster then everyone gets mad because that's not where you put it
Hot tip: that can't end well.
Who said anything about it being plugged in?
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RE: Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.
January 25, 2015 at 7:44 pm
(January 25, 2015 at 5:14 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Look up the history of the marriage license in America.
Marriage has always been a private contract between families. Not until the middle ages did the government start to regulate marriage (e.g. seeking permission to marry from your liege lord). Marriage licenses as a requirement was instituted in America to prevent miscegenation (interracial marriages), the whole concept of the marriage license is based on discrimination.
So what? This is neither a defense of discriminatory practices, nor of this specific proposal. At best, it's an argument from tradition, which is obviously fallacious. What's your actual point, here?
Quote:There are plenty of jurisdiction where simple cohabitation is enough evidence for marriage (common-law marriage).
And this is sufficient reason to block off certain segments of the population from an avenue, needlessly, in order to dodge the law?
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