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Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 12:05 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 12:00 pm)YGninja Wrote: what do you call the people who hung him on the cross, hammered nails into him and stabbed him to death?

Enablers?

Yep

If someone commits death by cop what are the cops called in that situation?
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 12:07 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Nope Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Tonus Wrote: Enablers?

Yep

If someone commits death by cop what are the cops called in that situation?

Assistance in suicide.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm (This post was last modified: January 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(January 29, 2015 at 12:07 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Nope Wrote: Yep

If someone commits death by cop what are the cops called in that situation?

Assistance in suicide.

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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 1:55 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:05 pm)Nope Wrote: If someone commits death by cop what are the cops called in that situation?

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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 2:15 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm)dyresand Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 12:00 pm)YGninja Wrote: Its not suicide, as suicide is killing yourself. Jesus didn't kill himself, he just refused to avoid his own murder. You cannot be murdered and yet have committed suicide, so if you imagine Jesus committed suicide, what do you call the people who hung him on the cross, hammered nails into him and stabbed him to death? His assistants? lol

It still is he knew he was going to die he walked into it. So like ill say again someone one wants to kill you and you have all this information and regardless of asking for help and or getting protection you still don't and end up dead because you needlessly ignored the obvious threats its the same as suicide.

Its not suicide no matter how you want to frame it. He didn't kill himself, end of discussion.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 2:22 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 2:15 pm)YGninja Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 12:04 pm)dyresand Wrote: It still is he knew he was going to die he walked into it. So like ill say again someone one wants to kill you and you have all this information and regardless of asking for help and or getting protection you still don't and end up dead because you needlessly ignored the obvious threats its the same as suicide.

Its not suicide no matter how you want to frame it. He didn't kill himself, end of discussion.

Sorry, but that's not an argument and definitely not the end of discussion.

Let's revise it:

1) Jesus knew he was going to die
2) He had the power to prevent that from happening
3) He did not prevent that from happening
4) Which means he allowed himself to be killed
5) Which is what suicide by cop means
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 2:30 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 2:22 pm)Xeno Wrote:
(January 29, 2015 at 2:15 pm)YGninja Wrote: Its not suicide no matter how you want to frame it. He didn't kill himself, end of discussion.

Sorry, but that's not an argument and definitely not the end of discussion.

Let's revise it:

1) Jesus knew he was going to die
2) He had the power to prevent that from happening
3) He did not prevent that from happening
4) Which means he allowed himself to be killed
5) Which is what suicide by cop means

Suicide = Killing yourself. Jesus did not kill himself.
Suicide by cop = Acting in a threatening way to intentionally provoke a lethal response from law enforcement. Jesus did not act in a threatening way to incite a lethal response from the law enforcement.

Allowing yourself to be killed, is not suicide by cop.
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 2:34 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 2:30 pm)YGninja Wrote: Suicide = Killing yourself. Jesus did not kill himself.
Suicide by cop = Acting in a threatening way to intentionally provoke a lethal response from law enforcement. Jesus did not act in a threatening way to incite a lethal response from the law enforcement.

Allowing yourself to be killed, is not suicide by cop.

From the OP: (bolding mine)

(January 28, 2015 at 8:21 am)Nope Wrote: According to the New Testament, Jesus knew that he was going to die if he remained in Jerusalem. He even knew that Judas would betray him. Further, he drew attention to himself by sending his 2 apostles to take/steal a white donkey for him to ride into the city. Jewish people would have known that by entering the city in such a fashion, Jesus was claiming to be the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy in Zechariah. Because he was apparently not a stupid man, Jesus would have been aware that his actions would antagonize the authorities


Quote:All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass
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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 2:41 pm
(January 29, 2015 at 2:15 pm)YGninja Wrote: Its not suicide no matter how you want to frame it. He didn't kill himself, end of discussion.

By this logic, walking out onto a freeway is not suicide.

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RE: Did Jesus Commit Suicide By Cop
January 29, 2015 at 3:08 pm
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