Does anybody else feel sorry for religious people?

[robvalue]

I do kinda want to pull their brain out and slap some sense into it, and put it back. But the preliminary tests on this procedure aren't good. Disposing of bodies is hard.

[tantric]

I do kinda want to pull their brain out and slap some sense into it, and put it back. But the preliminary tests on this procedure aren't good. Disposing of bodies is hard.

Try a more indirect approach - slap their neurons. What you describe, minus the part about gaining sense, in pretty much a text book DMT experience. It only lasts 10 minutes and they don't actually die.

What was it the Dead Kennedy's used to sing?

I do my part
Behind the lines
Swabbing door handles of cop cars
With D.M.S.O.
Mixed with (cough)

[robvalue]

OK I'll try that. I'm running out of test subjects though so this better work.

[Godscreated]

First thing, this to everyone who posted, don't feel sorry for Christians, feel sorry for those who believe they are and in reality they are not.

They believe that they believe but in reality they don't believe? Where do you get this shit from?

I'd try to explain it to you, but you've shown understanding is beyond your capacity.

GC

[Norman Humann]

Aw shucks. Thanks

[IanHulett]

First thing, this to everyone who posted, don't feel sorry for Christians, feel sorry for those who believe they are and in reality they are not.

That's a no true scotsman fallacy. Wish you guys would stop committing them.

Christians do not want others pity because we know the great life we have and the greater eternal life that awaits.

I pity the fool! lol Sorry, had to go there...

You're right, you Christians DO know the good life. Here's why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMWNYmuhTvg

Pft... you Christians claim you're persecuted. Become an Atheist so you can know REAL persecution.

Now Ian, why do you believe we are wasting our time, our money, our lives and oppressing ourselves. What proof do you have and where did you get it.

Uh, let's see... um... well,
OPPRESSION: You can't masturbate, you can't have sex until marriage, gay people, Bisexuals and Biromantic Asexuals like myself according to your cult are not allowed to marry other guys or have sex with them or else... hmm... what is the punishment... uh... OH YEAH!!! We get stoned to death! How about women? Well... they cannot speak in church, they must always submit to their husbands sexual/non-sexual needs, women are lesser human beings, cattle, property, pick one, and are denied equal rights. Oh, and did you know men need to submit to their wives too? So, me being sex repulsed, I have to ignore my feelings about sex and submit, because I don't own my own damn body. You realize how frustrating this is? Sexuality isn't the only way religious people are oppressed. There are many other ways that religious people become oppressed.

MONEY: Isn't this one obvious? Any person who knows how to THINK knows that they're wasting their money by donating during the offering.

TIME/LIVES: Uh, wow. This one is hard. It's somewhere along the lines of... well... there is no god, you have to go to church every weekend, instead of doing nice things for the hell of it, you're doing nice things and also mean things for an afterlife that hasn't even been proven to exist, this "god" hasn't literally shown himself to anybody, evangelical christians are trying to spread the wonderful news about a Gawd that nobody has demonstrated to exist just so those people can fall victim to the global scam, that which is called Christianity, you believe in a fairytale and rarely actually read your fairytale, and lastly, you're here on an atheist forum to defend your cult against a community of Atheists who know more about your cult than you do. Hmm... sounds legit...

Why would you have a girl friend that's a Christian, when you feel like she belongs to the fools club, sounds rather stupid to me.

GC

You're right. It is stupid, and my reason is even stupider. My stupid reason for having a Christian Girlfriend is because I love her, and although I waste my time going to church every weekend, it's worth it so I can be with her. I also want her to know that I may not support the cult she's in, but I support her choice to follow it and want her to know that if she starts questioning her faith, I want to be by her side to help her and support her, and guide her in the right direction because she won't get support from other religious people. I'd want her to know that it's okay to question faith and that I will support her every step of the way.

[Faith No More]

Seriously? I thought the default assumption was that being rational was harder. Working out your ethics and morals in a gray world, digging through philosophies to find meaning - it's a mess. I would be MUCH easier to believe what was pushed at me. If there were some kind of awareness after death, I might feel sorry for all those who wasted their time, but I suspect that most people do/have religion because it works for them. I really don't see a lot of people who are actually trapped by their beliefs. Hell, there are probably more rationalists in that situation - reason is a harsh master.

Sure, reason can be harsh, but I think the benefits outweigh anything gained from religion. You get to recognize the human race for the collection of insanity that it truly is. It allows you to humble yourself before the deep existential question instead of deluding yourself into believing you have all the answers. But most of all, it prevents your brain from atrophying from pretending you've solved life's mysteries and gives you a reason to always be in the pursuit of knowledge.

And yes, I do feel a little sorry for the people that don't have that.

[Thumpalumpacus]

And yes, I do feel a little sorry for the people that don't have that.

It's a smug complancency that they haven't often chosen for themselves ... brainwashing victims.

[Godscreated]

First thing, this to everyone who posted, don't feel sorry for Christians, feel sorry for those who believe they are and in reality they are not.

That's a no true scotsman fallacy. Wish you guys would stop committing them.

Really, shows you do not know much about the scriptures. They tell us we (Christians) can know those who are not really believers.

Christians do not want others pity because we know the great life we have and the greater eternal life that awaits.

I pity the fool! lol Sorry, had to go there...

God says only a fool will call others fools.

Pft... you Christians claim you're persecuted. Become an Atheist so you can know REAL persecution.

Pffft, I've never claimed to be persecuted and Christians in this country are not, those living and working in Muslim countries are the ones who suffer persecution. Your understanding of Christians is so warped I'm surprised you would want to be within a mile of one. If you think you're persecuted go to Iran and claim to be a Christian.

Now Ian, why do you believe we are wasting our time, our money, our lives and oppressing ourselves. What proof do you have and where did you get it.

How about women? Well... they cannot speak in church, they must always submit to their husbands sexual/non-sexual needs, women are lesser human beings, cattle, property, pick one, and are denied equal rights. Oh, and did you know men need to submit to their wives too?

What churches have you been to, the churches I've attended have had many women as teachers, even over men, I've learned much from women in churches. I've known women who would be great deacons, women have great responsibility in church.
You say those things above and then show men and women are to be equals in the church and life. You have a warped idea or at least confused sense of the role of men and women in the church and life.

So, me being sex repulsed, I have to ignore my feelings about sex and submit, because I don't own my own damn body. You realize how frustrating this is? Sexuality isn't the only way religious people are oppressed. There are many other ways that religious people become oppressed.

No, I do not and to pretend to would be lying. Could it be.... no you would never accept that. Again I say your sense of sexuality in a Christian relationship is warped and it could be because of your own problems. You ever read the book "Songs of Solomon." As far as sex only within marriage, if you had ever studied the Bible instead of running down something you haven't even tried to understand, you might just realize that a sexual experience between a man and women is what God recognize as marriage. There were no marriage ceremonies, no vows, that's something man made up.

MONEY: Isn't this one obvious? Any person who knows how to THINK knows that they're wasting their money by donating during the offering.

I'm willing to bet you have no idea where the monies collected in church goes to, I do I've set on financial boards. There is no waste of money and pastors are not allowed to set on this board, there wages are set by the board and voted on by the church, some of the monies do not even stay with the church, they go to mission works and those in need, monies are given to other Christian programs to help fund them. Before you judge you should learn what you're talking about and so far as I can see you do not understand in the least.

TIME/LIVES: Uh, wow. This one is hard. It's somewhere along the lines of... well... there is no god, you have to go to church every weekend, instead of doing nice things for the hell of it, you're doing nice things and also mean things for an afterlife that hasn't even been proven to exist, this "god" hasn't literally shown himself to anybody, evangelical christians are trying to spread the wonderful news about a Gawd that nobody has demonstrated to exist just so those people can fall victim to the global scam, that which is called Christianity,

What makes you think we do not enjoy going to church to learn and worship, fellowship with each other is important to Christians in many ways, ways you can't understand because you want try. You go to church every Sunday and why?
As for knowing God's real all Christians do the NT teaches we can know, you believe we have hope He's real, this is where you misunderstand what hope is about, our hope is trusting in God to do what He says He will. Faith is what leads us to the truth of who God is, your lack of this knowledge, gives you a great misunderstanding of Christianity.
A global scam, just hows that to work and who benefits from such a scam, someones feed you a tremendous amount of bull.

you believe in a fairytale and rarely actually read your fairy tale, and lastly, you're here on an atheist forum to defend your cult against a community of Atheists who know more about your cult than you do. Hmm... sounds legit...

Let me say this sonny boy, I've studied and taught the scriptures for a long time, I actually know, unlike you, what's in the pages of scripture. You and all the atheist fall very short of my knowledge of scripture and God and, you have no idea why I'm here, your assumptions are dead wrong as to why I'm here. Sounds to me you want to challenge us to who knows the scriptures.
Fairytales are those things that are outside the truth, that would apply to atheist seeing your outside of God's truth ie. the truth of God.

Why would you have a girl friend that's a Christian, when you feel like she belongs to the fools club, sounds rather stupid to me.

GC

You're right. It is stupid, and my reason is even stupider. My stupid reason for having one is because I love her, and although I waste my time going to church every weekend, it's worth it so I can be with her.

Loving someone isn't stupid, so I'm taking it you're being sarcastic. I personally do not believe that a relationship between two who are so different in their world views can be healthy for either one.

The way you feel about Christianity really confuses me as to why you would even start a relationship with a Christian. Her world view is something that is part of who see is, and it's something you portray with hatred here, so how long before that will effect your relationship with her. It just seems counter productive to have a relationship like that.

GC

[Faith No More]

It's a smug complancency that they haven't often chosen for themselves ... brainwashing victims.

I get the feeling though that many times they're aware of their complacency and simply comfortable with staying that way. My wife, for instance, has said on more than one occasion that she is aware that her beliefs are probably not rational, but she doesn't really care to find out.

I mean, if that works for them and they're not shoving it in my face, I guess I can accept that, but I don't think it's always as simple as their brainwashed. They just don't really want to know if their beliefs are valid or not because of they comfort they receive.