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Quote:"I understand there has been some controversy about my participation in a documentary called THE PRINCIPLE. Let me assure everyone that I completely agree with the eminent physicist Lawrence Krauss, who was himself misrepresented in the film, and who has written a succinct rebuttal in SLATE. I am not a geocentrist, nor am I in any way a proponent of geocentrism. More importantly, I do not subscribe to anything Robert Sungenis has written regarding science and history and, had I known of his involvement, would most certainly have avoided this documentary. I was a voice for hire, and a misinformed one, at that. I apologize for any confusion that my voice on this trailer may have caused. Kate Mulgrew"
Imagine that: lying scumbags lied to people in order to get them to lie for them. That's the kind of person I would trust to teach me the secrets of the universe, for sure.
It also seems as if Krauss wasn't interviewed for the 'documentary'; he was quote-mined:
Quote:For all who asked: Some clips of me apparently were mined for movie on geocentricism. So stupid does disservice to word nonsense. Ignore it.
Time for snowtracks to backtracks, methinks.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 6, 2015 at 8:28 pm (This post was last modified: February 6, 2015 at 8:29 pm by IATIA.)
(February 6, 2015 at 1:28 pm)LostLocke Wrote:
(January 9, 2015 at 2:26 am)snowtracks Wrote: The film brings before the public eye astonishing results from recent large-scale surveys of our Universe which disclose surprising evidence of a preferred position in the cosmos, aligned with our supposedly insignificant Earth. http://www.theprinciplemovie.com/about/
I watched the trailer out of curiosity. It said nothing of course, but I did recognize most of the people from other such trash as "Alien Conspiracies" and the like. I am sure Snowud and Haytrax are cumming in their pants. Maybe even GC.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 7, 2015 at 2:37 am (This post was last modified: February 7, 2015 at 3:29 am by snowtracks.)
(February 6, 2015 at 10:17 am)Chas Wrote:
(February 6, 2015 at 1:25 am)snowtracks Wrote:
Oooh! Quotes taken out of context! I'm so convinced. Not.
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Self-defeating? How? Just because you can't be told your purpose and have to man-up and find your own?
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Explain what about the Cambrian?
Darwin had hoped later fossil discoveries would eventually eliminate what he regarded as the one outstanding anomaly associated with theory. Ref: Origin of Species, page 307 (I have it on E-book as that). The anomaly he was referring to was the Cambrian Period - (ref. Burgess Shale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale) - wherein appeared in the fossil records was ’disparity’ (major differences in form, phyla level) without prior ’diversity’ (minor diff. among organisms, species level ).
The future fossil evidence he had hope was never realized. Been 150 years old man, time to call it a day.
(January 17, 2015 at 3:17 am)dyresand Wrote:
(January 17, 2015 at 3:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: You’d need about 10,000 shuttle main engines in sequence just to build up a decent speed (say, 1/100th light speed).http://www.businessinsider.sg/how-to-travel-to-alpha-centauri-2015-1/#.VLoLZWd0zGh
and such a boring trip.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 7, 2015 at 7:20 am
(February 7, 2015 at 2:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: Darwin had hoped later fossil discoveries would eventually eliminate what he regarded as the one outstanding anomaly associated with theory. Ref: Origin of Species, page 307 (I have it on E-book as that). The anomaly he was referring to was the Cambrian Period - (ref. Burgess Shale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale) - wherein appeared in the fossil records was ’disparity’ (major differences in form, phyla level) without prior ’diversity’ (minor diff. among organisms, species level ).
The future fossil evidence he had hope was never realized. Been 150 years old man, time to call it a day.
You need to support your contention that Darwin was referring to the Cambrian since that does not appear to be in the text.
What is your evidence?
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 8, 2015 at 12:27 pm
(February 7, 2015 at 2:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: The future fossil evidence he had hope was never realized. Been 150 years old man, time to call it a day.
Yes, of course. Everyone knows that empirical evidence which has not been found within the space of precisely 150 years has thereby been shown impossible. No such evidence will ever be found and whatever such evidence would have supported must therefore be given up. No more talk of 'evolution'. Forget Darwin. Guess we'll have to go back to Genesis to get our talk of origins back on solid ground.[/sarcasm]
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 8, 2015 at 12:41 pm
(February 7, 2015 at 2:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: Darwin had hoped later fossil discoveries would eventually eliminate what he regarded as the one outstanding anomaly associated with theory. Ref: Origin of Species, page 307 (I have it on E-book as that). The anomaly he was referring to was the Cambrian Period - (ref. Burgess Shale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale) - wherein appeared in the fossil records was ’disparity’ (major differences in form, phyla level) without prior ’diversity’ (minor diff. among organisms, species level ).
The future fossil evidence he had hope was never realized. Been 150 years old man, time to call it a day.
Except that we have plenty of explanation of the Cambrian period, both in fossils, and in other areas. They're here, though I doubt you'll even bother to click the link. For example, oxygen levels- which have a positive correlation with diversity in Eukaryotic life- rose just prior to, and during the Cambrian period, due to reaching a saturation point that allowed it to exist as a gas. Additionally, sufficient ozone to protect against incoming UV light formed around that time too; you don't think that those two factors, both of which are correlated with increased diversity among biological organisms, might have contributed toward the increased diversity among biological organisms in the Cambrian period?
Just pretending there's no explanation for this is lying, Snowy. Not that this is a surprise from you, at this point; unthinking scrabbling to defend the indefensible via arguments from ignorance is your stock in trade.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
February 8, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Maybe this theory will intrigue Snowy to check it out.
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Main article: Snowball Earth
In the late Neoproterozoic (extending into the early Ediacaran period), the Earth suffered massive glaciations in which most of its surface was covered by ice. This may have caused a mass extinction, creating a genetic bottleneck; the resulting diversification may have given rise to the Ediacara biota, which appears soon after the last "Snowball Earth" episode.[122] However, the snowball episodes occurred a long time before the start of the Cambrian, and it is hard to see how so much diversity could have been caused by even a series of bottlenecks;[42] the cold periods may even have delayed the evolution of large size organisms.
