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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 7:35 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...how is he still able to make a living off this?
WLC is popular because he intellectualizes garbage. He takes the terrible theistic arguments and uses flowerly language to give himself a psedo-academic flair, but underneath it's all still garbage. Theists eat it up because to hear their beliefs reinfoced with what they perceive to be as legitmacy is what thry yearn for. As we've seen from the links that theists provide, they are all about reinforcing their own beliefs(I guess we all are in some ways, though), and the more quasi-intellectual the argument, the more they love it.
Plus, they can always use him as an example of a theist that can actually spell.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 7:38 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (February 8, 2015 at 4:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: ...how is he still able to make a living off this?
WLC is popular because he intellectualizes garbage. He takes the terrible theistic arguments and uses flowerly language to give himself a psedo-academic flair, but underneath it's all still garbage. Theists eat it up because to hear their beliefs reinfoced with what they perceive to be as legitmacy is what thry yearn for. As we've seen from the links that theists provide, they are all about reinforcing their own beliefs(I guess we all are in some ways, though), and the more quasi-intellectual the argument, the more they love it.
Plus, they can always use him as an example of a theist that can actually spell.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 7:53 pm
Oh shit, you didn't... 
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 7:57 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 7:38 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (February 8, 2015 at 7:35 pm)Faith No More Wrote: WLC is popular because he intellectualizes garbage. He takes the terrible theistic arguments and uses flowerly language to give himself a psedo-academic flair, but underneath it's all still garbage. Theists eat it up because to hear their beliefs reinfoced with what they perceive to be as legitmacy is what thry yearn for. As we've seen from the links that theists provide, they are all about reinforcing their own beliefs(I guess we all are in some ways, though), and the more quasi-intellectual the argument, the more they love it.
Plus, they can always use him as an example of a theist that can actually spell.
Oh, damn. That's what I get for opening my mouth with clumsy fingers and no spellcheck!
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm
Unfortunately I could not download the MP3 for some reason. That said, the amazing correspondence between mathematical ideas and physical reality comports with the theory of moderate realism on which Thomism builds.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Unfortunately I could not download the MP3 for some reason. That said, the amazing correspondence between mathematical ideas and physical reality comports with the theory of moderate realism on which Thomism builds.
Of course there's a correspondence. Mathematics is itself a representation of physical reality. You might has well have tried to validate a theory by saying it predicts that there is a correspondence between wetness and water.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 9:29 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Mathematics is itself a representation of physical reality. Solving the problem of universals shows just the opposite. Sensible bodies manifest mathematical ideas to greater or lesser extents.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 9:29 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (February 8, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Mathematics is itself a representation of physical reality. Solving the problem of universals shows just the opposite. Sensible bodies manifest mathematical ideas to greater or lesser extents.
Mathematics is the application of the laws of logic given some starting axioms. The universe tells us what the laws of logic are. If the starting axioms are true for the universe, then mathematics will describe the universe. It's a tautology.
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 10:37 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The universe tells us what the laws of logic are. Are you suggesting that an alternate universe could have a different set of logic?
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RE: William Lane Craig continues to desperately defend the indefensible.
February 8, 2015 at 10:52 pm
(February 8, 2015 at 10:37 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (February 8, 2015 at 10:26 pm)Surgenator Wrote: The universe tells us what the laws of logic are. Are you suggesting that an alternate universe could have a different set of logic?
I don't see why not. The quantum world is already wierd enough. What's stopping another universe to be even wierder.
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