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Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
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RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
(March 17, 2015 at 10:52 pm)GriffinHunter Wrote: I hope you guys here realize that just as not all atheists are the same, so are not all theists the same. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but they aren't always accurate. Tongue

We've had a couple of awesome theists in here, some deists too.

In general, we'll judge you on your own merit, not that of some of the theists that frequent this site.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#22
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
(March 17, 2015 at 11:01 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: We've had a couple of awesome theists in here, some deists too.

In general, we'll judge you on your own merit, not that of some of the theists that frequent this site.

Haha thank goodness. Smile

Deism is a pretty interesting position to me; in some ways I find it more convincing than traditional Christian theism. It has a lot of the same potential objections though.
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#23
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Welcome. Can't promise you any griffins. Then again, get enough of those brownies in you and you're apt to find almost anything.

In general, I also don't like pissing contests either so I wish you luck with that. But we all have triggers. For me, it is feeling mislead or condescended to. But I start everyone off with a clean slate and I like your style so far.

Good luck with hanging on to your independent streak and optimism regarding reason. I really believe it is possible to stay true to those principles and also remain a theist, but I suspect that is harder to do than tossing the latter altogether. Of course, the easy path isn't always the best one.
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#24
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Welcome

Questions are good.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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#25
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Hey Griffin, I sent you a PM. Feel free to ask about anything you please, either here on one of the appropriate boards or in 1-on-1 correspondence. Hope you find our future discussions helpful in whatever it is you're seeking.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#26
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
(March 17, 2015 at 10:52 pm)GriffinHunter Wrote: I hope you guys here realize that just as not all atheists are the same, so are not all theists the same. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but they aren't always accurate. Tongue

They might not all be the same but they're all wrong.


Welcome
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#27
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Hello!
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#28
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Hey Griffin Hunter, welcome to the forum!

You've already shown yourself to be more thoughtful than most theists we get through here. Generally in their first post they write a load of religious stuff out as fact, and then tell all of us what we believe and why we are stupid. Since you're approaching things in a much more respectful and honest way, I think you will get the same back from most members here Smile
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#29
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
Welcome. If you want discussion, then you're probably in the right place. This being a discussion forum and all.
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#30
RE: Raised as a Christian - looking for discussion
I'm ready. Let's discuss!
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