Sins

[FatAndFaithless]

Drich, you're really not gonna get anywhere, especially here, if you keep repeating over and over that you have the "True Christianity™". You should know this by now.

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So is being gay a choice?? ABSOLUTLY

And yet again, your misinformed, archaic, unsubstantiated, and misspelled ideas are on parade as per the usual.

[Drich]

Drich, you're really not gonna get anywhere, especially here, if you keep repeating over and over that you have the "True Christianity™". You should know this by now.

'Here's the thing FF, 'my version' allows for all Jesus Christ centered 'versions.' While at the same time disqualifies any one 'true way.' In my post I even made an allowance for those who want to live under legalism as still being Christian.

Seems to me your speaking to steriotypes, and not to what is actually being said. How far does that go 'here?'

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So is being gay a choice?? ABSOLUTLY

And yet again, your misinformed, archaic, unsubstantiated, and misspelled ideas are on parade as per the usual.
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Your cherry picking here shows that again your speaking to steriotypes rather than what was said. I Clearly said Homosexual sex is the SAME Choice as Hertro Sex outside the confines of marriage. Meaning it is the same sin for a gay or a straight couple.

But I guess your selfrighteous indignation does not work when you speak to all that I said, so you try and straw man yourself back into known ground.

"You should know this by now.." That intelectualy laziness does not work here.

[FatAndFaithless]

Drich, you're really not gonna get anywhere, especially here, if you keep repeating over and over that you have the "True Christianity™". You should know this by now.

'Here's the thing FF, 'my version' allows for all Jesus Christ centered 'versions.' While at the same time disqualifies any one 'true way.' In my post I even made an allowance for those who want to live under legalism as still being Christian.

Seems to me your speaking to steriotypes, and not to what is actually being said. How far does that go 'here?'

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So is being gay a choice?? ABSOLUTLY

And yet again, your misinformed, archaic, unsubstantiated, and misspelled ideas are on parade as per the usual.

Your cherry picking here shows that again your speaking to steriotypes rather than what was said. I Clearly said Homosexual sex is the SAME Choice as Hertro Sex outside the confines of marriage. Meaning it is the same sin for a gay or a straight couple.

But I guess your selfrighteous indignation does not work when you speak to all that I said, so you try and straw man yourself back into known ground.

"You should know this by now.." That intelectualy laziness does not work here.

You do know the difference between "having sex" and "sexual orientation", yes? "Being gay" doesn't mean that you that you have sex at all, it's about to what you are attracted.




And for Jesus Tittyfucking Christ's sake, stop it with the smiley.

[Nope]

Drich, correct me if I have misunderstood your stance on homosexuality.You believe that sex is a sin for anyone unless they are married. Homosexuals can't marry; therefore, sex between two men is always a sin. If a gay man chose to abstain from sex then he would not be sinning. I think this is the stance of both the Catholic and Mormon Churches.

If two men legally marry then are they still sinning when they have sex?

[robvalue]

Isn't it more like, "Since we can't burn them anymore..."

[FatAndFaithless]

Drich, correct me if I have misunderstood your stance on homosexuality.You believe that sex is a sin for anyone unless they are married. Homosexuals can't marry; therefore, sex between two men is always a sin. If a gay man chose to abstain from sex then he would not be sinning. I think this is the stance of both the Catholic and Mormon Churches.

If two men legally marry then are they still sinning when they have sex?

Inb4 legally married =/= married according to God.

[Norman Humann]

In short once we accept Christ our forgiveness of sin is based on how we love God and our ablity to forgive those who sin against us. (Treating others as we want to be treated.) Does that mean we get to do what we want? Absolutly. because if we love God with all of our being then what we want will be what God wants for us. Does that mean we continue to sin? Yes, we will continue to sin. Then what changes? our love for sin. We can not love our sin and Love God with all of our being.

Attoment is the one and only cure for the zombie virus of sin. Once you have taken the cure it then inoculates you from future exposure as well.

I have been cure/saved from my sin as have everyone else who accepts the cure Christ offers.

Bolding mine.

The fact that you managed to contradict yourself within two subsequent posts speaks volumes.

As for the part about homosexuality... bah. Get your facts straight and try again.

[Tonus]

The Bible only ever speaks of marriage as between a man and a woman. Polygamy and the keeping of concubines is described and in some cases tolerated, but gay marriage is never given any mention. Gay sex is condemned in the way that fornication (presumably, with anyone except your wive(s) or concubine(s)) and adultery are. The best you might be able to read into it is that lacking a direct condemnation, gay-marriage would be allowed. To argue otherwise is to accept that anything not mentioned in the Bible must be approached in a very conservative manner (ie, when in doubt, don't do it).

Stories like the one of the adulteress brought to Jesus ("let he who is without sin cast the first stone") can also muddy the waters, in that he uses an odd argument to free her from paying the law-mandated penalty for her act. But that story also may be a later interpolation and not part of the original canon.

[h4ym4n]

A comment in another thread made me want to ask this to the Christians on this forum.

What is sin?

Anything not in the Expressed Will of God. (Expressed Will= The Law or the Way of God.)

Dritch, is owning another person (aka slavery) a sin?




Trying to establish a baseline

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[FatAndFaithless]

Anything not in the Expressed Will of God. (Expressed Will= The Law or the Way of God.)

Dritch, is owning another person (aka slavery) a sin?




Trying to establish a baseline

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Dude, Drich has explictly and eagerly endorsed slavery as okay, and has prayed for members on this forum to get cancer. There is no baseline to establish, heh.