Pediatrician Refuses Treatment of Baby of Lesbian Parents

[Heywood]

All it does is create doctors who serve people they do not want to serve.  Instead of being focused wholly on the patient in front of them, at least on a subconscious  level their mind is still dealing with disgust and anger at being forced to do something they don't want to do.  
By letting people serve the people they want to serve you increase the quality of service.

Higher Quality of Service > Preventing Butthurt

You know what? That's the problem. Healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold. At least it shouldn't be. I worked as a medic for several years and if we only cared for the people we liked, every homeless, every drunk would have been left to rot in the gutter. That's why healthcare shouldn't be a commodity. It's not grocery shopping after all.

First, Healthcare is a commodity whether want it to be or not. It is human labor and human labor is a commodity.  Would you have done that job for free?  If healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold, you should be willing to provide it whenever it is needed without any compensation whatsoever.  

Second, declaring Health Care not to be a commodity doesn't refute my point.  I'm sure there were plenty of times when you had to provide care to someone who stank....and it was quite difficult to endure.  In those times, how much of your brain was focused on dealing with the stink instead of working out how to best provide care?   In your situation, as an emergency medic, it is unavoidable.....and you probably had to do it as a condition of your employment.

This situation is quite different.  Its not an emergency. It is not a condition of her employment(she may be a partner).  There is another doctor right there who is happy to take on the patient so the market is serving this person.   So why not let the doctor who wants to see the child....see the child.  Why not let the doctor who does not want to see the child refrain?

 

[Iroscato]

You know what? That's the problem. Healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold. At least it shouldn't be. I worked as a medic for several years and if we only cared for the people we liked, every homeless, every drunk would have been left to rot in the gutter. That's why healthcare shouldn't be a commodity. It's not grocery shopping after all.

First, Healthcare is a commodity whether want it to be or not. It is human labor and human labor is a commodity.  Would you have done that job for free?  If healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold, you should be willing to provide it whenever it is needed without any compensation whatsoever.  

Second, declaring Health Care not to be a commodity doesn't refute my point.  I'm sure there were plenty of times when you had to provide care to someone who stank....and it was quite difficult to endure.  In those times, how much of your brain was focused on dealing with the stink instead of working out how to best provide care?   In your situation, as an emergency medic, it is unavoidable.....and you probably had to do it as a condition of your employment.

This situation is quite different.  Its not an emergency. It is not a condition of her employment(she may be a partner).  There is another doctor right there who is happy to take on the patient so the market is serving this person.   So why not let the doctor who wants to see the child....see the child.  Why not let the doctor who does not want to see the child refrain?

Why can you not see that any doctor who refuses to treat a child based on her background does not deserve to practice medicine in the first place? When your job is to help people and save lives, you cannot bring your personal views into that profession.
And trying to turn medical care into a commodity to be bought and traded will lead you down a veeery dangerous path, as evidenced by the increasingly unfair and mismanaged US healthcare system.

Edited to fix faulty quotation - Pandæmonium

[Silver]

First, Healthcare is a commodity whether want it to be or not. It is human labor and human labor is a commodity.  Would you have done that job for free?  If healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold, you should be willing to provide it whenever it is needed without any compensation whatsoever.  

Second, declaring Health Care not to be a commodity doesn't refute my point.  I'm sure there were plenty of times when you had to provide care to someone who stank....and it was quite difficult to endure.  In those times, how much of your brain was focused on dealing with the stink instead of working out how to best provide care?   In your situation, as an emergency medic, it is unavoidable.....and you probably had to do it as a condition of your employment.

This situation is quite different.  Its not an emergency. It is not a condition of her employment(she may be a partner).  There is another doctor right there who is happy to take on the patient so the market is serving this person.   So why not let the doctor who wants to see the child....see the child.  Why not let the doctor who does not want to see the child refrain?

 

You're just fucking retarded. How's my ad hominem any better than yours?

Answer, you're a Christian and should fucking know better.

[Heywood]

lmaooo I just dont get you Caucasians your smart people are atheist and your other people still believe jesus is a white guy that is hiding in texas.

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them arabics gata go back to were thw came from

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Yes

Hey, fuck off.

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Heywood has reached troll levels.

True to your title, you're late to the point -- Heywood reached troll-level long ago, and contributes so little that he's about as useful as a pinholed condom. He took a long time off after getting slapped around about employment rights in Kentuckistan, probably hoping folks would forget his self-induced clusterfuck.

Me, I lob the occasional broadside at the twatmuffin hoping to score a laugh amongst the readership -- because his "points", such as they are, are vapid, unfounded, biased, and the product of a mind deprived of the full panoply of facts.

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Another opportunity to share the gospel wasted fulfilled.

Fixed for accuracy.  The "Good Word" is a snakepit of bigotries justified by belief in an invisible contradiction.

Hope that helps.

Parker, I took a long time off because I got involved in something else.  My life isn't boring and monochromatic like yours.  

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

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Parker, I took a long time off because I got involved in something else.  My life isn't boring and monochromatic like yours.  

 

Lol, as if you know jack-shit about me. A good translation of your post above is, Mommy was upset about my sagging grades, so she said I couldn't log on until I was getting at least a D in English.

Go read a book, there's a good lad.

You know, the more I think about it, the more I agree with Heyweird. Let the doctors select patients based upon their own personal bigotries. Then protest right outside of their clinics, and put them out of business.  Assholes like that are better suited for data-entry jobs anyway; they have no business caring for people, and this sort of process would winkle them out.

This is another form of coercion, but I am not opposed to it.  People have a right to assemble and speak peacefully.  However I would not recommend it.  All it does is create doctors who serve people they do not want to serve.  Instead of being focused wholly on the patient in front of them, at least on a subconscious  level their mind is still dealing with disgust and anger at being forced to do something they don't want to do.  
By letting people serve the people they want to serve you increase the quality of service.

Higher Quality of Service > Preventing Butthurt

When you work with the public, you must take public opinion in mind. This ain't rocket surgery. If you're a bigot, you probably shouldn't be in the business of helping humans, because at the end of the day, humans are, well, humans.

Classifying dissentient opinions as "butthurt" marks you in a way you probably don't want to know about -- just sayin', kid. You'll learn one day.




















































Maybe.

[SteelCurtain]

Heywood has reached troll levels.

True to your title, you're late to the point -- Heywood reached troll-level long ago, and contributes so little that he's about as useful as a pinholed condom. He took a long time off after getting slapped around about employment rights in Kentuckistan, probably hoping folks would forget his self-induced clusterfuck.

Me, I lob the occasional broadside at the twatmuffin hoping to score a laugh amongst the readership -- because his "points", such as they are, are vapid, unfounded, biased, and the product of a mind deprived of the full panoply of facts.

Yup. He was banned from TTA (UN Heywood Jahblome) for trolling/flaming. People hated him so much they came into his intro thread and he couldn't even stop himself from trolling them here.

He is a mere troll, and a sorry excuse for one at that.

[Chas]

True to your title, you're late to the point -- Heywood reached troll-level long ago, and contributes so little that he's about as useful as a pinholed condom. He took a long time off after getting slapped around about employment rights in Kentuckistan, probably hoping folks would forget his self-induced clusterfuck.

Me, I lob the occasional broadside at the twatmuffin hoping to score a laugh amongst the readership -- because his "points", such as they are, are vapid, unfounded, biased, and the product of a mind deprived of the full panoply of facts.

Yup. He was banned from TTA (UN Heywood Jahblome) for trolling/flaming. People hated him so much they came into his intro thread and he couldn't even stop himself from trolling them here.

He is a mere troll, and a sorry excuse for one at that.

No, not banned; he just has a Reputation of -43.

[SteelCurtain]

It was a temp ban back then.

[Heywood]

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Parker, I took a long time off because I got involved in something else.  My life isn't boring and monochromatic like yours.  

 

Lol, as if you know jack-shit about me. A good translation of your post above is, Mommy was upset about my sagging grades, so she said I couldn't log on until I was getting at least a D in English.

Go read a book, there's a good lad.

This is another form of coercion, but I am not opposed to it.  People have a right to assemble and speak peacefully.  However I would not recommend it.  All it does is create doctors who serve people they do not want to serve.  Instead of being focused wholly on the patient in front of them, at least on a subconscious  level their mind is still dealing with disgust and anger at being forced to do something they don't want to do.  
By letting people serve the people they want to serve you increase the quality of service.

Higher Quality of Service > Preventing Butthurt

When you work with the public, you must take public opinion in mind. This ain't rocket surgery. If you're a bigot, you probably shouldn't be in the business of helping humans, because at the end of the day, humans are, well, humans.

Exchanging of goods and services is as natural to human beings as breathing.  It is a fundamental right as far as I am concerned.  Bigotry is intolerance of other peoples views/behavior.  Your desire to forbid people who don't behave the way you want them too from engaging in the exchange of goods and services demonstrates that it is you who is the bigot.  Quite honestly.....you are also a hypocrite.

As far as books go, for someone like me, there's audio books......which I can listen too all day long.

Right now it is the audio version of this one I am working on.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keyword...w9z0pnkf_b

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Yup. He was banned from TTA (UN Heywood Jahblome) for trolling/flaming. People hated him so much they came into his intro thread and he couldn't even stop himself from trolling them here.

He is a mere troll, and a sorry excuse for one at that.

No, not banned; he just has a Reputation of -43.

That's what happens when you call a cabal of douchebags out for their douchebaggery.

[Iroscato]

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Lol, as if you know jack-shit about me. A good translation of your post above is, Mommy was upset about my sagging grades, so she said I couldn't log on until I was getting at least a D in English.

Go read a book, there's a good lad.



When you work with the public, you must take public opinion in mind. This ain't rocket surgery. If you're a bigot, you probably shouldn't be in the business of helping humans, because at the end of the day, humans are, well, humans.

Exchanging of goods and services is as natural to human beings as breathing.  It is a fundamental right as far as I am concerned.  Bigotry is intolerance of other peoples views/behavior.  Your desire to forbid people who don't behave the way you want them too from engaging in the exchange of goods and services demonstrates that it is you who is the bigot.  Quite honestly.....you are also a hypocrite.

Let the bigots engage in the free market.  If the market doesn't like their bi

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No, not banned; he just has a Reputation of -43.

Thats what happens when you call a cabal of douchebags out for their douchebaggery.

And yet you maintain personal bigotry should override professional duty. You stand atop very shaky ground there, kid.