Pediatrician Refuses Treatment of Baby of Lesbian Parents

[Mister Agenda]

The problem with google is you and I can search the exact same phrase and get different results.   I did search google and didn't find anything to suggest that blacks were being denied health care because they are black.  I read one story of a black doctor who got into an accident and the emergency room wouldn't treat him because he was black but it turned out that story was false.  If your claim is so trivially easy to support as you suggest, how about you do something novel and just post a link?  Is that too hard for you?

You have that oh-so-common ability not to be able to find what you don't want to. Check.

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I understand your arbitrary, self serving rationale, I just think it's weak, like everything else you say. You're fine with doctors being punished for the event in question, just so long as the clinic doesn't hurt your pride by punishing them for stated reasons you might find offensive. It's pathetic.




Reported. Don't say I didn't warn you, you dishonest fuck.

No you do not understand.  I don't have a problem with the clinic firing the doctor for any reason.  They could fire her because she is Christian for all I care.  I have a problem when the state does it.  I have a problem when the state comes in and says, "you must behave this way" for no good reason. 

What's not to understand about his reaction to "However the progressotards.....like Esquilax....will invent problems to justify controlling you.  Because in the end that is their goal...They don't give a rats ass about you....they only care about controlling you."

I imagine you were reported for being a lying sack of shit towards another forum member.

[robvalue]

I'm sure it was accidental, but I didn't say that stuff in the quote above

I'm done trying to reason with Heywood, I honestly have no idea what his position is as I can make no sense of it.

[Mister Agenda]

Let's play a game, and figure out which type/s of Libertarian Heywood is....

To be fair, I'm sure an equally damning chart could be made for any political party.

[The Valkyrie]

There are several misconceptions people have about doctors.  First of all, they don't all take the Hippocratic Oath.  There are various different oaths that different places require, and some have not had an oath that they had to take.  See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

Additionally, the legal obligations of doctors obviously varies by country, but as this story is about the U.S., it is the U.S. law that is relevant:

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionar...+Treatment

There are requirements to help in an emergency (thus, an emergency room in a hospital would not be allowed to refuse treatment for someone in need), but a doctor may ordinarily refuse to take on a new patient if he or she does not want to take on the patient.

And in this case, the baby was seen by another doctor at the time of the original appointment.  So even if it were an emergency (it wasn't), it would not be a case of the child being neglected or denied care that was needed.


That said, I think this is a stupid motive to refuse to take a patient.

This, precisely.

Personally I wouldn't refuse treatment to anyone, except under the most extreme of circumstances.  And when I worked A&E it wasn't an option anyway.

Saying that, I think this paediatrician is a piece of shit for refusing to treat a kid for the perceived "sins" of the parents. 

[Heywood]

I am okay with doctors getting punished for committing fraud or violating the terms of their employment.  What part about that is difficult for you to understand?  Are you really this dense?

I understand your arbitrary, self serving rationale, I just think it's weak, like everything else you say. You're fine with doctors being punished for the event in question, just so long as the clinic doesn't hurt your pride by punishing them for stated reasons you might find offensive. It's pathetic.

However the progressotards.....like Esquilax....will invent problems to justify controlling you.  Because in the end that is their goal...They don't give a rats ass about you....they only care about controlling you.

Reported. Don't say I didn't warn you, you dishonest fuck.

What are you warning me about?  What rule did I violate?  Or are you just warning me that you are out to get me?

[Thumpalumpacus]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I agree with Heyweird. Let the doctors select patients based upon their own personal bigotries. Then protest right outside of their clinics, and put them out of business. Assholes like that are better suited for data-entry jobs anyway; they have no business caring for people, and this sort of process would winkle them out.

I didn't read the wall of text that was your last post.  Its not a fault with you....its a fault with me.  I just don't have the patience/attention span to parse a lot of text.  I wish I did.  

If you ever want to get my attention or make a strong point with me, keep your posts short and to the point and I am much more likely to read it.

Your honest admission of your limited intellectual ability to manage complex concepts is appreciated.

eta: I would like to take this opportunity to express how deeply I hate this new "reply" formatting which doesn't let me parse the quoted post without major toothaches/revisions. What was wrong with the old system?

[Heywood]

You know, the more I think about it, the more I agree with Heyweird. Let the doctors select patients based upon their own personal bigotries. Then protest right outside of their clinics, and put them out of business.  Assholes like that are better suited for data-entry jobs anyway; they have no business caring for people, and this sort of process would winkle them out.

This is another form of coercion, but I am not opposed to it.  People have a right to assemble and speak peacefully.  However I would not recommend it.  All it does is create doctors who serve people they do not want to serve.  Instead of being focused wholly on the patient in front of them, at least on a subconscious  level their mind is still dealing with disgust and anger at being forced to do something they don't want to do.  
By letting people serve the people they want to serve you increase the quality of service.

Higher Quality of Service > Preventing Butthurt

[Bad Wolf]

You increase the quality of service for the people they want to serve while encouraging discrimination. That isn't ok.

[abaris]

All it does is create doctors who serve people they do not want to serve.  Instead of being focused wholly on the patient in front of them, at least on a subconscious  level their mind is still dealing with disgust and anger at being forced to do something they don't want to do.  
By letting people serve the people they want to serve you increase the quality of service.

Higher Quality of Service > Preventing Butthurt

You know what? That's the problem. Healthcare isn't a commodity to be sold. At least it shouldn't be. I worked as a medic for several years and if we only cared for the people we liked, every homeless, every drunk would have been left to rot in the gutter. That's why healthcare shouldn't be a commodity. It's not grocery shopping after all.

[Thumpalumpacus]

lmaooo I just dont get you Caucasians your smart people are atheist and your other people still believe jesus is a white guy that is hiding in texas.

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them arabics gata go back to were thw came from

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Mm. kinda sounds like it from where I'm sitting, yes. On account of them being, y'know, doctors.

Yes

Hey, fuck off.

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Heywood has reached troll levels.

True to your title, you're late to the point -- Heywood reached troll-level long ago, and contributes so little that he's about as useful as a pinholed condom. He took a long time off after getting slapped around about employment rights in Kentuckistan, probably hoping folks would forget his self-induced clusterfuck.

Me, I lob the occasional broadside at the twatmuffin hoping to score a laugh amongst the readership -- because his "points", such as they are, are vapid, unfounded, biased, and the product of a mind deprived of the full panoply of facts.

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Another opportunity to share the gospel wasted fulfilled.

Fixed for accuracy.  The "Good Word" is a snakepit of bigotries justified by belief in an invisible contradiction.

Hope that helps.