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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 21, 2015 at 11:49 am
(June 21, 2015 at 11:03 am)Rhythm Wrote: Indeed I am, the subject of yet another of the many stunning failures of prophecy contained within the "word of god". I don't know that I'd call him a "biblical" god...but he certainly must have thought highly of himself when he assumed the title Epiphanes, eh? The almighty never -did- get around to miraculously destroying the man, in any case. He got sick and died while blissfully looting Persian temples before Yahweh could swing the axe, and the Messianic Kingdom never came to pass.
Maccabees were not considered inspired of god. The writers never wrote under that pretense and the jewy jews never considered it the word of god. I think that bible prophecy could be considered as to why there is an interruption to why god stopped backing jewish kings but that'll be a better discussion when we go hunting for sharks 
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 21, 2015 at 12:25 pm
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-Daniel- made the prophecy in question, bud...the bible is the word of god. Whether you believe Daniel to be inspired, or the bible to be the word of god.... isn't much of an issue -for me-. That "prophecy" in the OT is what we would -today- call "socio-political commentary", or that the "prophecy" of Daniel, specifically, was hopeful (and likely earnest) -fiction- in this case.... will fall on deaf ears with the vast masses of the faithful.
They need their prophecies to be, well...prophetic, eh?
(as does, of course, the kingdom hall....btw  )
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 2:46 am
(June 21, 2015 at 11:03 am)Rhythm Wrote: Indeed I am, the subject of yet another of the many stunning failures of prophecy contained within the "word of god". I don't know that I'd call him a "biblical" god...but he certainly must have thought highly of himself when he assumed the title Epiphanes, eh? The almighty never -did- get around to miraculously destroying the man, in any case. He got sick and died while blissfully looting Persian temples before Yahweh could swing the axe, and the Messianic Kingdom never came to pass.
A very large percentage of ruler and politicians have been lunatics throughout history. The rulers in the Bible were genuine nuts. There wasn't a sane one in the bunch.
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 2:50 am
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(June 23, 2015 at 2:46 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: (June 21, 2015 at 11:03 am)Rhythm Wrote: Indeed I am, the subject of yet another of the many stunning failures of prophecy contained within the "word of god". I don't know that I'd call him a "biblical" god...but he certainly must have thought highly of himself when he assumed the title Epiphanes, eh? The almighty never -did- get around to miraculously destroying the man, in any case. He got sick and died while blissfully looting Persian temples before Yahweh could swing the axe, and the Messianic Kingdom never came to pass.
A very large percentage of ruler and politicians have been lunatics throughout history. The rulers in the Bible were genuine nuts. There wasn't a sane one in the bunch.
Sometimes things take a type, like a big percentage of cops (bullies), or the majority of theists who come to this forum (total dicks).
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 9:51 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:50 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: [quote='Wyrd of Gawd' pid='971851' dateline='1435041963']
Sometimes things take a type, like a big percentage of cops (bullies), or the majority of theists who come to this forum (total dicks).
Moi?
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 9:51 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 2:50 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: (June 23, 2015 at 2:46 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Sometimes things take a type, like a big percentage of cops (bullies), or the majority of theists who come to this forum (total dicks).
Moi?
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 9:55 pm
Do you agree with disfellowshipping that the Jehovah's Witnesses practice, and did your particular church practice it?
If you do not agree with it, do you think it's indicative of cult-like practices?
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
June 23, 2015 at 11:41 pm
(June 23, 2015 at 9:51 pm)Won2blv Wrote: (June 23, 2015 at 2:50 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Sometimes things take a type, like a big percentage of cops (bullies), or the majority of theists who come to this forum (total dicks).
Moi?
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RE: Ask one of Jehovah's Witnesses
July 15, 2015 at 8:48 am
(June 13, 2015 at 7:26 pm)Won2blv Wrote: (June 13, 2015 at 7:15 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So your still arguing that on homosexuality is a choice? Because we have almost 40 years of psychology saying otherwise. As for fornication being a choice, well I suggest you look at moslovs heirarrchy of the needs http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FhTgHobEouE/TP..._Needs.png
Notice how sex is right next to food. Yeah I suppose eating is a choice too.
Now this perspective won't make sense to a witness but, if your the creator of a universe that 13 billion ly across and filled with wonders we can't imagine, then why the fuck would you give 2 shits about what a bunch of primates do with their peepees? You wouldnt, but if your a bronze age king looking to manipulate then guilt is a great tool, and homosexuals are a great boogie man.
Actually no, JW's do believe that people could be born with the desires. The same I am born with sinful desires. Maybe god would have standards on how his gift of life is used. The difference is that JW's recognize that having a desire doesn't justify it. Go figure out what moslovs heirarrchy of the needs is then come back.
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