The Election is Rigged (I'm Going To Lose)

[SteelCurtain]

I use Politifact.

Trump is one of the worst politicians ever rated for truthfulness by the site that won a Pulitzer for that.

[A Theist]

I use Politifact.

Trump is one of the worst politicians ever rated for truthfulness by the site that won a Pulitzer for that.

Left wing birds of the same feather. Politifact is far from being nonpartisan.

[SteelCurtain]

They're the least partisan website I know of.

Conservatives just lie more. Like Newt Gingrich says, he'd rather traffic in feelings rather than facts.

[A Theist]

They're the least partisan website I know of.

Conservatives just lie more. Like Newt Gingrich says, he'd rather traffic in feelings rather than facts.

I don't see that at all. They're one of worst sites for partisan bias that I've seen.

As far as who lies the most, the left,by far, are the biggest of liars. Can't trust the left for any amount of truthfulness.

[SteelCurtain]

Except they're objectively not.

[A Theist]

Except they're objectively not.

Except you're being subjective.

[GUBU]

Voter suppression happens all the time on both sides. The same year that Bush's team clearly did voter surpression in Florida, so did Al Gore. Before people in the panhandle, which overwhelmingly leans Republican, Al Gore had falsely claimed victory, which CNN had reported. How many people didn't go out and vote because of that? That shit happens every year by both sides. You'd have to be naive in the extreme to think only one side does it. Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders voters by pretending that the election wasn't that close constantly on the news. I know Republicans who believe only Democrats do it. In fact there was a whole book written about Democrats and voter suppression tactics. The fact that you only know the Republican side of things is kind of telling.

That's not what I'm talking about anyway.

Between 1968 and the late '90s (can't remember exactly when but it stopped in time for 2000), Republican state governments in the south were legally obliged to get pre-approval from the Supreme court on any laws regarding checking voters or eligibility before submitting them for passing through state legislatures. This was a legacy of the Jim Crow era, an ideology which still has a deathgrip on the Republicans and has returned with a vengeance in law since the requirement was removed by Daddy Bush's placemen on the bench.

[GUBU]

You can always invent a few, Adolf. Shitheads like you believe anything.

Got your diploma from Trump U?

To call him Adolf is to wrongly credit him with cunning and effectiveness.

And good public speaking skills.

[Jenny A]

Voter suppression happens all the time on both sides. The same year that Bush's team clearly did voter surpression in Florida, so did Al Gore. Before people in the panhandle, which overwhelmingly leans Republican, Al Gore had falsely claimed victory, which CNN had reported. How many people didn't go out and vote because of that? That shit happens every year by both sides. You'd have to be naive in the extreme to think only one side does it. Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders voters by pretending that the election wasn't that close constantly on the news. I know Republicans who believe only Democrats do it. In fact there was a whole book written about Democrats and voter suppression tactics. The fact that you only know the Republican side of things is kind of telling.

That's not what I'm talking about anyway.

Are you seriously equating false representations about polls with purging people from voter roles, physically impending voters, shutting polls early, and voter ID laws? Seriously?

Yes I agree that both sides do the former both out of malice and out of optimism; but that is nothing like actually preventing voting or making voting physically difficult, expensive, or time consuming. They aren't the same thing at all.

Nor is the Gore Florida a very good example. W himself thought he'd lost Florida until Jeb set him straight about who votes for who where in Florida. But yes, Clinton tried to do it to Burnie.

[CapnAwesome]

Voter suppression happens all the time on both sides. The same year that Bush's team clearly did voter surpression in Florida, so did Al Gore. Before people in the panhandle, which overwhelmingly leans Republican, Al Gore had falsely claimed victory, which CNN had reported. How many people didn't go out and vote because of that? That shit happens every year by both sides. You'd have to be naive in the extreme to think only one side does it. Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders voters by pretending that the election wasn't that close constantly on the news. I know Republicans who believe only Democrats do it. In fact there was a whole book written about Democrats and voter suppression tactics. The fact that you only know the Republican side of things is kind of telling.

That's not what I'm talking about anyway.

Are you seriously equating false representations about polls with purging people from voter roles, physically impending voters, shutting polls early, and voter ID laws?  Seriously?

Yes I agree that both sides do the former both out of malice and out of optimism; but that is nothing like actually preventing voting or making voting physically difficult, expensive, or time consuming.  They aren't the same thing at all.

Nor is the Gore Florida a very good example. W himself thought he'd lost Florida until Jeb set him straight about who votes for who where in Florida. But yes, Clinton tried to do it to Burnie.

Well there was a case where Democrats (in fact a congresswoman's son and his friends) literally slashed the tires of a group 100 of vans that were shuttling voters to the polls. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/12498215/ns/po...ing-tires/ This stuff happens on both sides. People who only see one side of it are probably getting their media from one sided sources or only want to see one side of it. It's very politically naive. If Clinton would do it to Bernie, she'd do it to Trump too but you won't hear about that if you only get one side of the story.