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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 1, 2017 at 9:40 pm
(July 28, 2017 at 1:21 am)Godscreated Wrote: It has been documented that a mule mating with a donkey has produce offspring. I have been wondering what to call it a mulkey or a donule.
How about "fundie"?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 2, 2017 at 1:07 am
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Evolutionary scientist and their followers make the claim of wholes sale change, if not then micro-organisms would be all that roamed the muddy pools of this planet.
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They refer to speciation events, which is simply when one population becomes incapable of successfully interbreeding with another.
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you must have read my post wrong because I said it's been documented that on occasion mules will have an offspring if breed with a donkey. The result is not a new kind it's still of the horse family and always will be.
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-as all speciated populations will -still- be "of the same kind" as their parent populations. You're still an ape.
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Not hardly sonny boy. If being an ape is what you want for yourself then have at it and go swing in the trees, but for me and my kind will live as God intended, humans.
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Horses and donkeys are both different species, differing chromosomes - this is precisely why their offspring are infertile, you see, but they share a "kind" (equidae). Mules are F1 hybrids produced by selection, same as literally everything you eat that grows out of the ground. The "on occasion" isn't a mystery either, it's when any given mule possesses chromosomal compatibility with a donkey. The disparity between them is precisely one fewer than with horses. So, it's a longshot, but less so than 64/62. It's also why a successful human chimp hybrid is unlikely to impossible, despite being "the same kind" - human beings having 46 (23 base pairs) and chimps have 48 (24). We have a fused telomere pair at chromosome 2 corresponding to chromosomes in other apes. It's doubled up, and we call it...wait for it...."the human chromosome".
Still accepting modern synth, you just don't know what it is or what it says. It's not as if you could reject it if you tried...it's just another strange thing you believe, in this case, about yourself. Genetics isn't the sort of thing that one gets to argue. It's demonstrable, as is selection. As is change over time..within and without "kinds".[/quote]
Then if speciation is limited how does evolution explain from the mud puddle to mammals. There offspring on occasion is not infertile and presumably if man were to take an interest in making the mule fertile we could. This of coarse would be a guided change by a superior being.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 2, 2017 at 1:53 am
Ah, once again completely overlooking the infinite regress. Tell me, do you believe in a Super-God who created the schizophrenic voice in your head? Or a Super-Duper-God who created that one?
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 9:00 am
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(June 15, 2017 at 9:30 am)Lutrinae Wrote: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
I'm not a literalist because I keep things in overall context, but mind if I have a crack at it? My replies are in pretty green ink.. -
1. Can you make a moral judgment against rape or slavery using only scripture?
Well this sounds good- "Control yourselves honourably, not in lust like the heathens" (1 Thess 4:4/5)
And Jesus said "Love one another", so christians therefore wouldn't want slaves anyway!
2. Would you sacrifice your child if god asked you to?
That's only a hypothetical question so nobody knows how to answer it.
3. Is it acceptable to cherry pick the bible and only follow the parts you agree with?
Which bible, the Old or New Testament? You can follow the harsh bits of the Old T if you like, but Jesus wouldn't be too pleased.
"Jesus saved you from the empty way of life handed you by your forefathers" (1 Pet 1:18 )
4. How did animal X get from point Y to point Z after the great flood?
It dried up.
5. How did carnivorous dinosaurs supposedly eat plants before the biblical fall of man, when their teeth and digestive systems were not equipped to process a vegetarian diet?
Not sure I understand the question. I suppose they supplemented their vegetarian diet with meat by eating each other for a while before God decided to pull the plug-
"Sorry kiddo, you're on the way out"
6. Can god tell a lie?
Why should he want to?
7. Is observable physical evidence more important and valid than what the bible claims to be true?
Well the bible says God created the universe, what more evidence do we need?
8. Is there any amount of evidence that would change your views?
Dunno bout Christians, but there's absolutely nothing that would make an atheist change his mind. Even if God dropped in for a chat he'd think it was a hallucination or something.
9. What physical proof is there that your particular god even exists?
The universe and divine creations like Lady Gaga.
10. Do you believe hell is a justifiable punishment for a simple lack of belief?
Jesus said he's going to drink wine with his mates in heaven, so if people don't want to come to the party, they don't have to.
That's me out then, I don't drink (sniffle)
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 12:37 pm
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The "answers" you gave...when you deigned to answer the question you quoted at all...were literalist answers, each of which directly contradicted by magic book.
I'll give it a 3/10 - up your troll game.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 3:47 pm
#6:
Ezekiel 14:9
9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
Looks like the answer is whenever He wants to.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 7:25 pm
(August 7, 2017 at 3:47 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: #6:
Ezekiel 14:9
9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
Looks like the answer is whenever He wants to.
That verse doesn't say anything about lies.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 7:32 pm
G-C is now going to give us his heavenly definition of the word "deceived."
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 7, 2017 at 8:44 pm
Might as well be a Mormon.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
August 8, 2017 at 10:35 am
I'd rather Gullible Cretin be part of Jonestown, just after drinking the Kool-Aid.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?
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