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10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 26, 2017 at 12:03 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 1:04 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: No, I've been arguing that you've been doing nothing more than replacing a theory you don't understand with a fairy tale you don't understand.  I don't know what you're to think, as I haven't seen much of it from you.

 I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

GC

(July 24, 2017 at 1:06 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: Just what would evidence of something not existing look like?

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 The stuff you can't seem to find for the beginning of the big bang.
 I'm tired of this discussion with you it's only going in circles, so get your last shot in because I'm finished with this.
GC

(July 24, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: -_- It was a hypothetical statement to show you how stupid your claim is. I don't have any evidence that god doesn't exist. I also don't have evidence that unicorns, leprechauns, bigfoot, etc. exist, but we all believe they don't. Why? Because we have seen no evidence for them. You don't have evidence that god exists, therefore we don't believe he exists. And prayer is useless, I asked god so many times as a child to let me know he was there. Guess what? I never got an answer. I did everything you say I should do and got no answer. So does your god just not want me then?

 I knew you had no evidence, that's why I asked and besides how could you have evidence that God doesn't exist when He does and yes I know without doubt that He does.

 As for what you did as a child I can't answer to because you gave vague detail and actually I do not even know if you ever went to church, had believing parents or anything else, for all I know you made that up.

GC

(July 24, 2017 at 1:05 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Calling it a relationship and a way of life does not exclude it from still being a system of indoctrination.

 Yes it does, because what I have is real.

GC

Fuck, man, everything you say and do is utterly disgusting. You are the worst kind of liar and don't even see it. I know I shouldn't hate people as badly victimized by religion as this, but you make that impossible. You make ridiculous tautologies so you can't be wrong about anything (arrogant, intransigent, condescending, none of those are something you would associate with being 'good' and yet you seem to have no qualms about being every one of them consistently). You accuse the rest of us of being deluded because your psychotic condition has made it so you can't see reason, or even the obvious fact that this idea of god you've got jamming up the gears in your mind is completely contradicted by that god being such a colossal piece of shit (if it exists, which would mean you're only right by complete accident and coincidence, and even then, it doesn't exist the way you describe it) that it leaves sad, frightened children completely alone in their most vulnerable moments when they are begging with the most sincere desperation for its love. You have no idea of basic definitions of terms like 'real' or 'evidence' and yet you make pronouncements as if you're an authority on them because you've got something you can't possibly demonstrate despite being asked an uncountable number of times to show it. Your moral judgments are such that I am flabbergasted you have a wife when it's clear you're perfectly okay with the idea of kidnapping and raping a woman according to your holy book since you have no idea how to disagree with it (that's called indoctrination-but then you already proved you understand NOTHING about these simple terms). So how about instead of repeating the same bullshit over and over, and puffing out your chest like some cocksure know-nothing know-it-all, you tell us why it is you think coming here and insulting all our intelligence is productive, if you're not trying to convert anyone or 'trick' anyone (which is exactly what your bullshit answers are doing, you fucking cowardly liar). Really, I would fucking LOVE to hear what you come up with for that.
Religions were invented to impress and dupe illiterate, superstitious stone-age peasants. So in this modern, enlightened age of information, what's your excuse? Or are you saying with all your advantages, you were still tricked as easily as those early humans?

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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 26, 2017 at 12:03 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 24, 2017 at 1:38 pm)Inkfeather132 Wrote: -_- It was a hypothetical statement to show you how stupid your claim is. I don't have any evidence that god doesn't exist. I also don't have evidence that unicorns, leprechauns, bigfoot, etc. exist, but we all believe they don't. Why? Because we have seen no evidence for them. You don't have evidence that god exists, therefore we don't believe he exists. And prayer is useless, I asked god so many times as a child to let me know he was there. Guess what? I never got an answer. I did everything you say I should do and got no answer. So does your god just not want me then?

 I knew you had no evidence, that's why I asked and besides how could you have evidence that God doesn't exist when He does and yes I know without doubt that He does.

 As for what you did as a child I can't answer to because you gave vague detail and actually I do not even know if you ever went to church, had believing parents or anything else, for all I know you made that up.

GC


Oh wow, are you actually starting to get it? Of course you have no way of knowing whether or not I'm making it up. And we have no way of knowing if you are making all that you say up!. Do you get it now? This is why you have to present evidence. No one is just going to take your word for it that you hear god. So I'll ask you again, present evidence that god exists, because your word is absolutely not good enough. I am open to believing in any god who has evidence for their existence, so now's your time to shine, GC. Be a witness for your god like you're supposed to be.
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
Godscreated Wrote: I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

GC

The theory is based on the evidence that the whole universe was once in a hot, dense state. It works backwards, it would be silly to come up with an idea of how the universe started and then look around for evidence to confirm it.

What's funny is that there isn't a shortage of apologists who claim the Big Bang is evidence of the Bible story of Genesis (the Big Bang is when God said 'let there be light').

Just like it's funny that no one makes the connection that God raising man from the dust is an excellent metaphor for evolving from microorganisms.

Christians can have their scientific cake and eat it too, and millions do.

Harry Nevis Wrote:Just what would evidence of something not existing look like?

It might have contradictory attributes, or be said to have had an effect on the universe that there is evidence against having happened. That takes care of the God of Theodicy and the God of Abraham.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
Godscreated Wrote:I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

I understand the god theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions.

See how this works?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 26, 2017 at 9:42 am)Cyberman Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote:I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

I understand the god theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions.

See how this works?

 I see how childish you are, is that what you were wanting me to see. You're still using distractions from my question.

GC

(July 26, 2017 at 9:34 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote: I understand the big bang theory as well as most laymen. It's because you have not beginning point to the theory that you keep arguing with distractions. 

GC

The theory is based on the evidence that the whole universe was once in a hot, dense state. It works backwards, it would be silly to come up with an idea of how the universe started and then look around for evidence to confirm it.

What's funny is that there isn't a shortage of apologists who claim the Big Bang is evidence of the Bible story of Genesis (the Big Bang is when God said 'let there be light').

Just like it's funny that no one makes the connection that God raising man from the dust is an excellent metaphor for evolving from microorganisms.

Christians can have their scientific cake and eat it too, and millions do.

  There is no evidence that the universe was in a dense state, it is an opinion.  God said He created the universe from nothing, meaning He created the materials the universe is made up of. God made the first man's body from the dust of the ground, He made the first woman from Adam's rib and after that God gave humans the means to make human bodies through conception. Evolution has no part of creation.

GC

(July 26, 2017 at 8:56 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 12:03 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I knew you had no evidence, that's why I asked and besides how could you have evidence that God doesn't exist when He does and yes I know without doubt that He does.

 As for what you did as a child I can't answer to because you gave vague detail and actually I do not even know if you ever went to church, had believing parents or anything else, for all I know you made that up.

GC


Oh wow, are you actually starting to get it? Of course you have no way of knowing whether or not I'm making it up. And we have no way of knowing if you are making all that you say up!.

What I say is inline with the scriptures, check it out if you do not believe me.

Inkfeather132 Wrote:Do you get it now? This is why you have to present evidence. No one is just going to take your word for it that you hear god. So I'll ask you again, present evidence that god exists, because your word is absolutely not good enough. I am open to believing in any god who has evidence for their existence, so now's your time to shine, GC. Be a witness for your god like you're supposed to be.

 I've been witnessing as scriptures teach, I tell people why I believe what I do and that I know it to be true. I'm not asking you to believe me, I'm giving witness to my belief, if you are truly interested in God then allow Him to give you evidence of His existence, that's His job as He has told us. Goading will not get you anywhere.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 27, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 8:56 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Oh wow, are you actually starting to get it? Of course you have no way of knowing whether or not I'm making it up. And we have no way of knowing if you are making all that you say up!.

What I say is inline with the scriptures, check it out if you do not believe me.

Inkfeather132 Wrote:Do you get it now? This is why you have to present evidence. No one is just going to take your word for it that you hear god. So I'll ask you again, present evidence that god exists, because your word is absolutely not good enough. I am open to believing in any god who has evidence for their existence, so now's your time to shine, GC. Be a witness for your god like you're supposed to be.

 I've been witnessing as scriptures teach, I tell people why I believe what I do and that I know it to be true. I'm not asking you to believe me, I'm giving witness to my belief, if you are truly interested in God then allow Him to give you evidence of His existence, that's His job as He has told us. Goading will not get you anywhere.

GC

And you're back to being dense again. The "scriptures" have as much evidence for their truth as god does. Your Bible is the place where god was invented, and so can't be used to "prove" his existence. And I would check that you were in line with the Bible if you would actually quote Bible verses instead of just expecting me to take your word for it. Grow up and get a clue, sitting here whining that "god told you so" isn't witnessing, it's just you childishly clinging to your unverified beliefs and then getting bitchy when we point out how stupid it is.
Being careful is for people who can't handle surprises.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
Godscreated Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:The theory is based on the evidence that the whole universe was once in a hot, dense state. It works backwards, it would be silly to come up with an idea of how the universe started and then look around for evidence to confirm it.

What's funny is that there isn't a shortage of apologists who claim the Big Bang is evidence of the Bible story of Genesis (the Big Bang is when God said 'let there be light').

Just like it's funny that no one makes the connection that God raising man from the dust is an excellent metaphor for evolving from microorganisms.

Christians can have their scientific cake and eat it too, and millions do.

  There is no evidence that the universe was in a dense state, it is an opinion.  God said He created the universe from nothing, meaning He created the materials the universe is made up of. God made the first man's body from the dust of the ground, He made the first woman from Adam's rib and after that God gave humans the means to make human bodies through conception. Evolution has no part of creation.

GC

Why do you suppose cosmologists and physicists proposed and almost universally accepted that the universe was once in a hot dense state without any evidence?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 27, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: God said He created the universe from nothing, meaning He created the materials the universe is made up of. God made the first man's body from the dust of the ground, He made the first woman from Adam's rib and after that God gave humans the means to make human bodies through conception. Evolution has no part of creation.
GC

Contemporary creationism does not contradict the biblical narrative. At the same time, the biblical narrative does not depend on contemporary creationism and could just as easily accommodate some form of evolution, just not the wildly implausible neo-Darwin synthesis.
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
What's wildly improbable about the demonstrably true?  Are you a carbon copy of your parents?  Is genetics an elaborate hoax?  Do you think that unfit creatures succeed at the same rate that fit creatures do?

What, the actual fuck, Neo? I'll never understand why yall say shit like this. What would "some form" of evolution look like that differed from modern synth? Have you ever given that any thought?
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RE: 10 Questions Biblical Literalists Cannot Honestly Answer
(July 27, 2017 at 9:34 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:
(July 27, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote: What I say is inline with the scriptures, check it out if you do not believe me.


 I've been witnessing as scriptures teach, I tell people why I believe what I do and that I know it to be true. I'm not asking you to believe me, I'm giving witness to my belief, if you are truly interested in God then allow Him to give you evidence of His existence, that's His job as He has told us. Goading will not get you anywhere.

GC

And you're back to being dense again. The "scriptures" have as much evidence for their truth as god does. Your Bible is the place where god was invented, and so can't be used to "prove" his existence. And I would check that you were in line with the Bible if you would actually quote Bible verses instead of just expecting me to take your word for it. Grow up and get a clue, sitting here whining that "god told you so" isn't witnessing, it's just you childishly clinging to your unverified beliefs and then getting bitchy when we point out how stupid it is.

 First I'm not whining nor being bitchy, I'm the one who will be living with God for eternity, so I have no reason to be either in this conversation. It does appear that you have slid off coarse and gotten a bit upset. You've given me no reason to quote scripture and if I did knowing how you react .... well it would be no different than how you are reacting now. The scriptures are for those who want to know God, to the casual reader they want have much meaning, if you were to ever change your mind an seek after God you would find the scriptures read very differently to you. If I'm stupid and God is who I believe Him to be then what does that make you.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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