RE: What's wrong with the doctrine of God's self-exisence?...
October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2010 at 11:41 pm by Godscreated.)
(October 18, 2010 at 10:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: He'll never get it.[/quote]
He's too desperate to believe.
But I can keep pounding. It comes naturally.
I'm not desperate to believe, I believe because I choose to and am very comfortable with my belief. I'm not affraid that someone is going to disprove what I know is real. So keep up your pounding if you like against me it is a futile effort, just pound away and wear out that arm.
(October 18, 2010 at 7:05 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 17, 2010 at 9:36 pm)dave4shmups Wrote:(October 17, 2010 at 8:24 pm)theVOID Wrote: Explain your take on the doctrine
Well I got it from the Christian theologian R.C. Sproul, who argues that God needs nothing to sustain him, because he has within himself the power of being. He therefore was not created.
If he needs nothing to sustain him why is he so desperate for our worship and adulteration?
What makes you think God is desperate for our worship, His existance is eternal and mans life on this planet is temporal. God did not need us in eternity before He created us and He would get along just fine after the human race is long gone. An eternal being has no need for temporal beings, they are no more than a flash of time, wisp of windblown smoke. God wants to give us His love and care forever and that is why He gives us an opportunity for eternal life.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.