RE: What's wrong with the doctrine of God's self-exisence?...
October 19, 2010 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2010 at 2:21 am by tavarish.)
(October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not desperate to believe, I believe because I choose to and am very comfortable with my belief. I'm not affraid that someone is going to disprove what I know is real.
So being comfortable in your belief to the point where no one can disprove it is somehow a good thing? The fact that people are giving you direct refutations to arguments you present, and you casually look the other way, dismiss the argument, or shift goalposts - is a good thing?
Please help me understand how your understanding of reality has any bearing on what is actually real. I posted this up a while ago, and no theist has given me an actual response worth mentioning:
How do you determine what is real and what is not?
(October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: What makes you think God is desperate for our worship
First Commandment pretty much sums it up.
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
This seems less like an omnicient supernatural deity and more like a teen with her first period.
Seriously, he will get his feelings hurt? The entity that has literally no regard for human life for most of the OT is supposed to be seen as a sensitive entity? That's bullshit, and more to the point, it's fantastically ridiculous bullshit.
(October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: , His existance is eternal and mans life on this planet is temporal. God did not need us in eternity before He created us and He would get along just fine after the human race is long gone.
So why the cocktease? If this divine entity has a perfect plan, then it was absolutely necessary that we come into existence - that everything go according to that plan. Your ability to rationalize a non demonstrable entity's intentions is quite laughable.
(October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: An eternal being has no need for temporal beings, they are no more than a flash of time, wisp of windblown smoke.
"I just pulled this out of my ass."
Let's throw you a bone here.
1. Demonstrate the existence of an eternal being.
2. Demonstrate those being's necessary intentions.
3. Demonstrate how those intentions necessarily don't include the need for "temporal beings".
(October 18, 2010 at 11:05 pm)Godschild Wrote: God wants to give us His love and care forever and that is why He gives us an opportunity for eternal life.
That's why we must all believe in the great Juju up the mountain. He gives us life, and takes it away when we are done using it.
It works exactly the same with any other mythological being that you can't back up with tangible evidence.
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