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If God changed his mind

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RE: If God changed his mind

July 25, 2015 at 10:17 am

(July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Did he? OK I missed that, I'll check it out.

Yes, that's a decent answer. It seems to suggest that God is not the sole author of morality, though. If "following your heart" produces a different result to simply doing what God says, this points to a separate source. And if you'd listen to it over God who is standing right in front of you, clearly God is a minor contributor.

Can't have it both ways.

It means he thinks Abraham and the Israelites are assholes. Either that, or his heart would tell him to murder, rape, etc., whenever god commanded it.

I agree that if you follow your heart rather than God, then God is not the arbiter of right and wrong, and God is pretty much irrelevant to morality.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."

— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.

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If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 17, 2015 at 10:42 am

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RE: If God changed his mind - by Spooky - July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm

RE: If God changed his mind - by RobbyPants - July 24, 2015 at 8:25 am

RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm

RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 2:40 am

RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 8:29 am

RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 18, 2015 at 11:08 am

RE: If God changed his mind - by IATIA - July 18, 2015 at 11:13 am

RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 11:18 am

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RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:26 pm

RE: If God changed his mind - by Jenny A - July 21, 2015 at 1:35 am

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