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Hostage to fear

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RE: Hostage to fear

July 25, 2015 at 9:36 pm

Quote:Equivocation.

Question #3:

If it's a good thing FOR YOU to have moral choices, would you agree that requires not only that YOU have complete freedom but also the possibility of choosing either good or evil? In other words, wouldn’t our freedom be severely restricted if we could only choose good?

Your question is nonsense because "good" is not objective, assuming the noun form which you have proposed. But, I'll do my best to answer.

It is knowledge and special empathy combined that allow one to 'choose good'. Your question posits that good is objective. I wholly reject your ignorant presupposition regarding the philosophy of goodness.

Therefore... your question is not only fallacious to begin with, but malformed at best.

Try again, Randy.

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Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 11:47 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Nope - June 17, 2015 at 12:10 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 12:25 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 17, 2015 at 12:16 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by LastPoet - June 17, 2015 at 12:40 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 1:05 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 3:05 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by The Grand Nudger - June 17, 2015 at 12:41 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Tonus - June 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Pyrrho - June 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 12:50 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - June 17, 2015 at 2:23 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 17, 2015 at 2:53 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by SteelCurtain - June 17, 2015 at 3:03 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Longhorn - June 17, 2015 at 3:07 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 8:48 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 17, 2015 at 10:15 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 18, 2015 at 12:58 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 18, 2015 at 11:24 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 19, 2015 at 5:26 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 20, 2015 at 11:00 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 21, 2015 at 12:08 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 21, 2015 at 12:50 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 21, 2015 at 9:06 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 21, 2015 at 9:33 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 21, 2015 at 4:54 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 23, 2015 at 5:56 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Simon Moon - June 23, 2015 at 6:11 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 23, 2015 at 6:18 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Simon Moon - June 24, 2015 at 3:14 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 24, 2015 at 1:59 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 24, 2015 at 5:31 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 24, 2015 at 5:48 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 24, 2015 at 7:29 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 24, 2015 at 8:34 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 10:04 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 17, 2015 at 9:10 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 17, 2015 at 9:41 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 17, 2015 at 9:48 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 9:15 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 19, 2015 at 9:45 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 19, 2015 at 6:38 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 9:27 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 19, 2015 at 10:39 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 20, 2015 at 6:42 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Pyrrho - July 20, 2015 at 9:34 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 21, 2015 at 7:53 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 21, 2015 at 9:03 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by dyresand - July 19, 2015 at 11:57 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 19, 2015 at 12:46 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 19, 2015 at 11:33 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 20, 2015 at 12:02 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 20, 2015 at 12:14 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 20, 2015 at 11:15 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 17, 2015 at 8:51 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 9:09 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 17, 2015 at 9:19 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by ignoramus - June 17, 2015 at 9:39 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Exian - June 17, 2015 at 9:57 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 17, 2015 at 10:53 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 17, 2015 at 10:06 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 18, 2015 at 11:30 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 19, 2015 at 6:33 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 17, 2015 at 10:22 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 18, 2015 at 11:56 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 19, 2015 at 12:44 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 19, 2015 at 8:09 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by The Grand Nudger - June 19, 2015 at 10:57 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 19, 2015 at 11:50 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by SteelCurtain - June 19, 2015 at 11:29 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 20, 2015 at 12:01 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - June 20, 2015 at 2:30 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - June 20, 2015 at 9:30 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 20, 2015 at 11:44 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - June 21, 2015 at 1:58 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 21, 2015 at 2:07 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - June 21, 2015 at 3:05 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 21, 2015 at 5:01 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Minimalist - June 24, 2015 at 2:18 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 21, 2015 at 7:24 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 21, 2015 at 2:54 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 23, 2015 at 10:41 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 24, 2015 at 8:08 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 24, 2015 at 10:22 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Godschild - July 23, 2015 at 12:10 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2015 at 10:43 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2015 at 9:06 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 21, 2015 at 9:22 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 9:11 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Redbeard The Pink - July 23, 2015 at 11:01 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 24, 2015 at 9:09 am

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 24, 2015 at 4:37 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Nope - July 24, 2015 at 5:03 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 24, 2015 at 7:50 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Redbeard The Pink - July 24, 2015 at 11:51 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 25, 2015 at 7:25 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Redbeard The Pink - July 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 26, 2015 at 3:30 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Redbeard The Pink - July 26, 2015 at 10:09 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 5:59 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 25, 2015 at 7:30 am

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 12:53 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Spacetime - July 25, 2015 at 9:38 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 9:52 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by Randy Carson - July 25, 2015 at 10:01 pm

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RE: Hostage to fear - by Iroscato - July 25, 2015 at 10:26 pm

RE: Hostage to fear - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 10:16 pm

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