Where did Jesus get His morality from?

[solja247]

When early xtians invented jesus - and there is no evidence that he ever lived except the demented rantings of 'believers' and even those were written well after the fact - they gave him a 'morality' which was known in Greek philosophy back at least as far as 7th-6th century Mytilene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittacus_of_Mytilene

Your beliefs about Jesus and the early Chrsitians have as much credibility as YEC.

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Well of course, he's jewish(supposedly) where else would it come from?

The Jews were not very moral. They hated everyone who didnt dress like them or have their foreskin removed.

Jesus

My bad, for some reason I believed you were talking about Socrates, because he also has zero evidence for his existence.

On the other side, his vaunted sermon on the mount speaks of self-mutilation to avoid sin and he even at one point speaks highly of self-castration to gain admission into Heaven. Some of Jesus' admonishments on the mount are ridiculous. Give away all you have to those who steal from you? Do good to those who harm you? Turn the other cheek? Who are we kidding? If Christians had followed such advice, the religion would no longer exist.

Do you really think Jesus was talking about self-mutilation? When Jesus talked about sheep, was He actually talking about a true story or a metaphorical idea?
Why are you trying to attack Christianity? We are talking about Jesus.

Jesus never condemns slavery, a no-brainer moral issue that would have set him way ahead of his time. Instead he uses slaves in his parables, offering tacit approval, and even says that the slave who knows his master's wishes and does them not will be beaten with many stripes. Jesus never condemns inequality, calling one Caananite woman a "dog" and forcing her to admit that she is. He tells a rich man to give up all his wealth and later says (paraphrased) "screw the poor, live it up while I'm here". Worst of all, Jesus taught that hell was real, terrifying people for thousands of years. Efforts to "save" souls from Hell have led to atrocities and persecution.

We dont know that.

John 21:25

25Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.

Could you imagine if Jesus did tell slaves to revolt? The end of Christianity right there.

Jesus never condemns inequality, calling one Caananite woman a "dog" and forcing her to admit that she is. He tells a rich man to give up all his wealth and later says (paraphrased) "screw the poor, live it up while I'm here". Worst of all, Jesus taught that hell was real, terrifying people for thousands of years. Efforts to "save" souls from Hell have led to atrocities and persecution.

You miss the point of this all together. Jesus was using a slogan of the Jews, that it was only Jews who mattered (we even see that in Romans) But Jesus healed many gentiles and talked to them, it would be silly to think that Jesus really thinks of people as dogs. Did not Jesus heal the woman?

If I ever stand before Jesus and he tries to judge me, I'll ask him "What about you? You have a lot of explaining to do! Your institution has created massive misery, stagnation and bigotry. You watched your followers kill and torture in your name and did nothing to stop them. The blood on your hands would match that of Hitler, Staliin, Genghis Kahn, Atilla and other terrors of history. You are the least fit to sit in judgment over humanity. It is YOU who should beg OUR forgiveness, not the other way around."

Are we talking about Jesus or Christianity?

To quote Ghandi, 'Keep your Christianity, but give me your Christ.'

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"Not only do they misunderstand the words of the philosophers; they even stoop to assigning words of the philosophers to their Jesus. For example, we are told that Jesus judged the rich with the saying 'It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god.' Yet we know that Plato expressed this very idea in a purer form when he said, 'It is impossible for an exceptionally good man to be exceptionally rich.'* Is one utterance more inspired than the other?" (94).

Do you actually know what Jesus was talking about?