RE: What's wrong with the doctrine of God's self-exisence?...
October 23, 2010 at 6:18 pm
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2010 at 6:21 pm by Captain Scarlet.)
(October 19, 2010 at 4:31 am)solja247 Wrote: Some theists think God is some emotional chick who says, 'Love me! Please love me!'Yep, I think you'll find anyone that has read the old testament is very well grounded in saying that God is an emotional being. To cap it all the only time God authored the bible, according to tradition, the first things God says is don't call me names, worhsip me and no-one else. This is all at pains of you upsetting him; emotional yes!
I see God as being a gentle king for some reason does want to have a relationship with us. The idea that God needs our worship is pagan and silly.
Quote:No one can say that God exists or doesnt, it all speculation. However, what was the cause for the universe? I also find the ontological argument is rather convincing, that God is the greatest thought or idea that can be imagined.Yes they can. God/s does/do not exist. Both the ontological arguments and the cosmological arguments are shot full of holes and lead their proponents nowhere. No-one takes those arguments seriously anymore apart from those who are desparate to believe of course.
Quote:So your second refutation is, 'I dont understand it, therefore God doesnt exist.'?That is a bad caricature of the point being made. God/s is/are abstract, abstract things only exist within conceptual frameworks (religion in this case). Remove that framework and a God/s no longer exist. No-one understands what a God/s is so it really hard to believe in it, and everyone who believes has a different perception apparently yours is a gentle king; which brings me back to the first point: have you read the OT?
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
