(August 7, 2015 at 4:16 pm)dyresand Wrote:(July 29, 2015 at 2:26 pm)The Batlord Wrote: Honestly, I'm not that up on Calvinism, but as I understand it one of the core tenets is that salvation and damnation are predetermined. Since God is supposed to be all-knowing and all-powerful, then doesn't that mean that he creates humans exactly as he sees fit, and since he's all-knowing, wouldn't that also mean that he would know exactly how every human would act? If he is both all-knowing and all-powerful, then wouldn't it be impossible for any human to have the freewill to change his fate?
I gave it some deep thought and here the premise of it. If you are already destined to be sent to hell there is literally no point in living your life
if you are already destined to go to Hell because it would be pointless to live a life even if you do follow jesus and or god and still get sent to hell.
So pretty much your cutting the middle man god and doing it yourself going on the one way trip down. Of course the bible says god will be pissed
he wouldn't have a reason too because in the end you are going to hell anyways.
The thing is, you don't know if you are predestined to hell or not. If you are someone who takes the attitude that you may as well just do what you want, then you are probably predestined to hell. But if you are someone who takes that attitude that you might not be predestined to hell and it is worthwhile to try to be good, then maybe you are not predestined to hell.
Predestination does not change the uncertainty, for you, on whether you will go to hell or heaven. God already knowing does not do you any good in your decision on what to do. With predestination or without predestination, you don't know in advance what will happen to you, so from your perspective, it is the same whether you are predestined or not.
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
