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If God changed his mind
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RE: If God changed his mind
August 9, 2015 at 4:54 pm
(August 9, 2015 at 4:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Drich Wrote: Please tell me your really not that stupid....

I offered to pray what ever it took to find God, for anyone who wanted me to. (Again, this could mean a winning lottery ticket or cancer/aids) This is nothing different than what I prayed for myself and I found God.

What if I told you that the sentiment "I would be okay with, and will in fact entreat, my god to beat the crap out of you, in order to make you agree with me," is vicious and terrible no matter how much doublespeak you inject into it first?

Can I make a suggestion?

I'm not saying that I agree with praying for someone to get cancer in any scenario. I think doing so is wrong, even if it ends up being for the greater good.

Now I'm going to repeat those lines because I'm sure someone will accuse me of it anyway:

I'm not saying that I agree with praying for someone to get cancer in any scenario. I think doing so is wrong, even if it ends up being for the greater good.

With that being said, if you are truly trying to understand where Drich is coming from, you have to look at it through his lenses. What's worse... battling cancer for a limited amount of time, or eternity in torment? He believes that people who do not believe in God go to Hell (a sentiment I also don't share, mind you).

Drich also said it took him getting cancer to find God.

So, since he believes the worst possible thing that can happen to someone is to be in eternal torment, and since he believes that not believing in God will get you there, and since he personally didn't find God until he got cancer, can you at least understand where he is coming from when he says that he would rather someone go through absolutely anything, regardless of how bad it is, if it would mean avoiding the worst thing of all?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 17, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 17, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Chad32 - July 17, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Philomath - August 10, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by vorlon13 - July 17, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by rado84 - July 17, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 17, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Spooky - July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by RobbyPants - July 24, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 8:29 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 18, 2015 at 11:08 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by IATIA - July 18, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 18, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:26 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Jenny A - July 21, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 22, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:39 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 10, 2015 at 6:29 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 10, 2015 at 9:43 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 11, 2015 at 5:22 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 11, 2015 at 9:49 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 10, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 10, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 21, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - August 9, 2015 at 6:40 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 6:42 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - July 18, 2015 at 3:59 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 18, 2015 at 8:25 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by dyresand - July 18, 2015 at 3:33 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - July 18, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 18, 2015 at 2:32 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by h4ym4n - July 26, 2015 at 4:54 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 26, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by vorlon13 - July 18, 2015 at 12:03 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 18, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 18, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 18, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 18, 2015 at 1:23 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 18, 2015 at 4:02 am
If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 10:57 am
If God changed his mind - by Muad·Dib - July 18, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Minimalist - July 18, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Minimalist - July 18, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by IATIA - July 18, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Godschild - July 20, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ronedee - July 18, 2015 at 4:25 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 19, 2015 at 6:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by AtheistAspie - July 21, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Silver - July 21, 2015 at 4:11 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 21, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 24, 2015 at 8:59 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 25, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 5:12 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 25, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 25, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 10:21 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 25, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 25, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by KevinM1 - July 25, 2015 at 5:53 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 25, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by ignoramus - July 26, 2015 at 5:20 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by BrokenQuill92 - July 26, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by robvalue - July 26, 2015 at 5:46 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - July 26, 2015 at 1:00 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - July 26, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by uniquepegasister - August 8, 2015 at 2:20 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 8, 2015 at 9:38 am
If God changed his mind - by Kingpin - August 8, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Pyrrho - August 8, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - August 8, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Longhorn - August 9, 2015 at 3:41 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 11:13 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 10, 2015 at 3:44 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 12:06 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 3:44 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Esquilax - August 9, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 5:35 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 7:06 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Esquilax - August 10, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 10, 2015 at 1:29 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 10, 2015 at 11:56 am
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 11:53 am
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 12:05 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 9, 2015 at 2:44 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 9, 2015 at 6:00 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 10, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 10, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Catholic_Lady - August 10, 2015 at 1:22 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 1:20 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Lemonvariable72 - August 10, 2015 at 3:37 pm
RE: If God changed his mind - by Kingpin - August 10, 2015 at 4:03 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 10:09 pm
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RE: If God changed his mind - by Minimalist - August 11, 2015 at 10:51 am
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