(August 9, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(emphasis is mine)(August 9, 2015 at 5:46 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: And then you continued with "but if you look at it from his perspective..." That's called justifying.
For the record, I never claimed you agreed, so you can put that straw man away.
I'm not justifying anything. Justifying would mean I'm trying to say it was right. I clearly say I think it's wrong. Twice.
Trying to understand where someone is coming from does not equal agreeing with their stance. I was trying to understand where he was coming from, and offering my perspective to others who seemed to be trying to understand where he was coming from too.
Hm, doesn't justifying a behavior mean you think the behavior is ok??
Justifications can just as easily be "his behavior isn't as bad as you think." That is what your post sounded like. "Look guys, when you look at it from his point of view, it's really not that bad." It's especially obvious that you're justifying him when you start using phrases like "What's worse... battling cancer for a limited amount of time, or eternity in torment?" No matter what you say about not justifying him, that right there gives lie to your denial. You are essentially saying that eternity in torment is worse than cancer so it's better to suffer cancer to be saved than not suffer it and be condemned. By extension, it would be very easy to say it's ok to pray for someone to get cancer, as long as you're doing it in the name of gawd\jeebus\holey casper so that they get saved.
If you don't agree with him, that's good. That you justify his position, whether you agree with it or not, is vile.
And, your post said nothing about you trying to see where he was coming from, but directing us to look at where he was coming from. Don't believe me? Go re-read your post.
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