(August 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: Hitler was a christian and the RCC fully supported him. This counters your assertion that the third Reich was set on atheism. Who you believe to be a real christian is irrelevant.I love it when you people want to play history professor on this matter with me. Even Minie got himself stung doing so.. So before you respond make sure you want to do this. This is one of my fav non christian subjects and I can really provide you with alot of reading to do. You better warm up your search engine!
Quote:A quote from one of Hitler's speeches in 1922:So hitler didn't get pronounced chanclor till 1933. In 1919 he was just getting started in the DAP (which is pre Nazism) in 1923 he was still rifling for position in the National socialist party. He was a brawler who was campaigning for support in beer halls. Remember the Nazi's at that time were just one of several political parties struggling to unite Germany. Your speech is from that era. It had absolutely nothing to do with who or what the Nazi party was or was to become. Nothing the Nazi's promised at that time came about. They promised a great number of things Including to give everyone a clean and respectable state sponcered/approved home, put a car (what is later known as the VW BEETLE) in every drive way, and a fair wage in every hand. along with that also came a whole host of other promises in a era of super great depression. Germany was being made to pay for all the damage they caused in WWI and it was breaking the back and the will of the members of that nation. This is why when Hitler and his buddies started to promise wealth and prosperity, people sold their souls to the devil by the millions to get a piece of the 'german dream.'
Once Germany united under hitler He very quickly broke ties with the Roman Catholic Church because the pope condemned His actions,(Hitler claim the pope was tring to dictate policies that would hurt the german people) and he established a german state ran church in an effort to control the church and its message. This was known as 'positive Christianity.' (It was a church that supported everything hitler decreed. Hitler was the defacto god) As the war progressed he moved to eliminate All remanents of the catholic church as well as an other non 'positive christianity churches) below are links to support everything I said here.
Now, If the quote you posted was indeed what Hitler wanted for the Nazi party why did He go off in this direction? I mean if the pope supported him as you claimed then why not just stay in league with the R/C Church? After Italy and Germany were alies.
Positive Christianity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
The 'people's car':
http://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/vw.htm
The house:
http://research.calvin.edu/german-propag...nhouse.htm
The persecution of Catholics in Nazi Germany:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_perse...in_Germany
Quote:Citation, please.soit-ten-ly
here is a list of all the different symbols:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_symbolism
Look at each one carfully. None of them can be identified with Christianity. ALL of them however represent another culture's another faith, good luck, power, protection etc, charm enchantment or spell.
With the above link simply type in the german name and the type in 'orgins' into your search engine.
All of this aside. America after Obama/The west in general looks more and more like pre Nazi Germany all the time. It is absolutely frightening to see how we have forgotten the past and are already repeating it.