(August 10, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Shuffle Wrote:Seems like there's evidence on both sides.(August 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: We have Brahma, Yaweh, and .... we need a third. I rejected Gaea because she doesn't satisfy the criteria of point #1. According to the Greeks, first matter was in existence and then she came into existence. Logically she could not have been the creator of something that existed prior to her existence.Fair enough.
I still think the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a valid claim on the origins of the universe. Now that your crap on "eternal" matter was completely destroyed, I don't see anything wrong with such a claim.
But I'm not here to argue the science.
If matter was created then it cannot be eternal. (self-evident; by definition if something were created it cannot have always existed)
Matter was created. (our assumed premise)
Therefore matter cannot be eternal.
In light of this sound and valid conclusion, the Flying Spaghetti Monster (consisting of matter), cannot be the creator of the universe.
So, Brahma, Yaweh, and ...?
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?