The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Rekeisha]

Says you.

 
Webster's revised unabridged dictionary 1913 + 1828
 
ALL-POW''ERFUL, a. Almighty; omnipotent.
 
Almighty
Possessing all power; omnipotent; being of unlimited might; being of boundless sufficiency; appropriately applied to the Supreme Being.
 
omnipotent
1. Almighty; possessing unlimited power; all powerful. The being that can create worlds must be omnipotent.
2. Having unlimited power of a particular kind; as omnipotent love.
 
Strong's Dictionary
 
Almighty is Shadday in Hebrew meaning most powerful
Almighty in Greek is pantokratōr

1. he who holds sway over all things
   
2. the ruler of all
   
3. almighty: God
   

 
International standard Bible Encyclopedia
Almighty:
ol-mit'-i:
(1) (shaddai [Ge 17:1]): Found in the Old Testament forty-eight times, most of these in the Book of Job; it occurs either alone or in combination with 'el, "God"). The root meaning is uncertain.
Almighty and Omnipotent
(2) (pantokrator), the exclusive translation of this Greek word in the New Testament, found principally in Re (nine times), once besides (2Co 6:18). Its occurrence in the Apocrypha is frequent
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words
Almighty:
"almighty, or ruler of all" (pas, "all," krateo, "to hold, or to have strength"), is used of God only, and is found, in the Epistles, only in 2Cr 6:18, where the title is suggestive in connection with the context; elsewhere only in the Apocalypse, nine times. In one place, Rev 19:6, the AV has "omnipotent;" RV, "(the Lord our God,) the Almighty." The word is introduced in the Sept. as a translation of "Lord (or God) of hosts," e.g., Jer 5:14 and Amo 4:13.
Dictionary.com
All-powerful
1. having or exercising exclusive and unlimited authority; omnipotent.
 

Also, I didn't say he could create people that both love and don't love him. I said that if he were all-powerful and completely perfect, he could give everyone the choice and they would still always choose him. An all-powerful, perfect being could set up a system where free will exists and still nobody chooses wrong.

I do not understand how that is giving His creation a choice.  If you have a choice of wither to love Him or to Love Him that isn't choosing.
 
Also we were created in the image of God and He continually chooses to love us and if we are to be like Him we must have the ability to actually choose not live in a world without the pretense of choosing love.
 

If God  created a system that includes suffering, then it means one of two things: either he wants us to suffer, or he doesn't want us to suffer but had to set the system up that way despite his wishes.

 
It seems as though you are assuming that 1) all suffering is evil and only produces evil in a person's life and 2) that there are only two possibilities of a God who creates a world without suffering. 3) that the system that he created included suffering.
 
1) Suffering can bring clarity and make you evaluate your action. Some suffering is necessary if one is to be healed or mature. Suffering can be humbling and more giving. Suffering can also point you to the fact that there is something wrong.
 
2) God created a world with the possibility of suffering because He wanted to allow His human creations, which ere made in his image, the possibility to choose to follow Him.
 
3) When God created the universe it was good and when He created man it was very good. The system didn't have suffering until humanity rejected God's proscribed way of living.
 

Let's see...starting with examples of scientific problems, the creation account is scientifically impossible as written, the flood story is scientifically impossible as written,
the gospels are full of miracles and resurrections that are scientifically impossible,
the parting of the Red Sea is scientifically impossible,

how

the Exodus from and enslavement in Egypt seems to have never happened according to archaeology...the list goes on.

 
Egyptologist Kenneth Kitchen notes that the price of 20 shekels is a price of a slave in the near east in about the 18th century BC. Gen 37:28 says that Joseph was sold as a slave for 20 shekels to Ishmaellite.
 
Having stated in 1 kings 6:1 that Solomon's reign was 480 years after the exile we can deduce that the nation of Israel's exodus was in 1440 BC. (scholars are in agreement about Solomon's reign)
 
In Judges 11:26  Jephthah tells the Ammonites that Israel was in the land for 300 years. (scholars accept that Jephthah had victory over the Ammonites and it took place around 1100 BC) So the Israelites would enter Canaan around 1400 BC so they would have left Egypt at 1440 BC.
 
The City of Ramses means born of God and this name used before the time of Pharaoh Ramses II. The name Ramses is the name of the Pharaoh that Joseph speaks to in Egypt hundreds of years before the reign of Ramses II. (Gen 47:11). the original name of the city was Rowaty then was later changed to Avaris.
Later Biblical writer updated the text when the name of the city was changed and rebuilt by Ramses II
 
the destruction levels in Canaanite Cites of Hazor and Jericho date to the 1400s. archaeological record also supports a gradual process of cities being conquered during that time as stated in the book of Joshua.
 
I have attached the links below which have bibliographies and more information about this subject.

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a027.html
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/200...px#Article
You can also check out
 

As for stuff that's stolen...many mythologies have flood stories like Noah's, strong men like Samson, dying and rising gods like Jesus, much of the early Bible treats Jehovah as a wind and/or mountain god like those found in other early faiths...

could you give specific stories from where you claim the bible stole these stories.
 

There is no reason to twist the Bible if you're trying to rouse people to violence and/or atrocity. Plenty of the Bible can be used this way as written, like the parts about throwing rocks at gay people until they're dead and the parts about slaves being expected to obey their masters...speaking of which...

It doesn't say to stone gay people is says to stone a man if he lay with another man (lev 30:13). Just like it says that you should stone an adultery or a fornicator (lev 20:10, Deu 22:22-27).  All of these act in the eyes of God are sexual act out side of His proscribed boundaries of marriage and sex.  Laws that are carried over after the death and resurrection of Jesus apply to all of us. Stoning people for immoral acts are no longer the proscribed punishment according to the bible and if you are willing to read it as a whole you would be able to more easily come to that understanding.
 

that first paragraph entails what to do with Hebrew slaves after they've "served their time," and if they started a family while enslaved then the only way to keep his family is to give up his freedom forever. There are no instructions about freeing females or children, so it's to be presumed that only grown Hebrew men could be freed from slavery by this time limit. What a kind form of slavery this is.

 
There are more instruction in Deuteronomy 15:12-18
12 “If your fellow Hebrew, a man or woman, is sold to you and serves you six years, you must set him free in the seventh year.
 
So if the woman is a Hebrew she too will leave after her years are up. not just that
13 When you set him free, do not send him away empty-handed. 14 Give generously to him from your flock, your threshing floor, and your winepress. You are to give him whatever the Lord your God has blessed you with. 15 Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt and the Lord your God redeemed you; that is why I am giving you this command today.
 
They can always run away Deuteronomy 23:15-16
 “Do not return a slave to his master when he has escaped from his master to you. Let him live among you wherever he wants within your gates. Do not mistreat him.
 
Ex 21:7
7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to leave as the male slaves do. 8 If she is displeasing to her master, who chose her for himself, then he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners because he has acted treacherously toward her. 9 Or if he chooses her for his son, he must deal with her according to the customary treatment of daughters. 10 If he takes an additional wife, he must not reduce the food, clothing, or marital rights of the first wife. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, she may leave free of charge, without any exchange of money.
 
So this type of sale was a rarity and usually happened when people were in extreme poverty (Neh 5:5).  If she was just a salve she could leave in 6 years (Deut 15:12) if she was to a 2nd wife she had the status of a wife (ex 21:10) If she was to be his son's wife she would be like a daughter. If the man didn't want to treat her in this manner he had to give her to someone who would take care of her or return her to her father without demanding any restitution. (ex 21:8-21:11)
 
Ex 21:20 “When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod, and the slave dies under his abuse, the owner must be punished.
 
So if the person has murdered his slave then he will be put to death .(ex:12) In the bible the person is still considered a person. Now lets look at verse 26 and 27
 
26 “When a man strikes the eye of his male or female slave and destroys it, he must let the slave go free in compensation for his eye. 27 If he knocks out the tooth of his male or female slave, he must let the slave go free in compensation for his tooth.
 
So if the mater treats his slaves in to beat them with such that he busts his eye and knocks out his tooth the man get to be free. If you have beaten a man to the point that they are bed ridden then I believe this would indicate that that slave get to be free.
 
Now after the slave owner has beaten his slave so much that he is free and after he is free he dies it would be difficult at that time to tie the slave owner to the crime  so they wouldn't pursue any charges.

According to Christian doctrine it only takes one sin to land a person in hell, and it doesn't matter which sin it is. All offenses are equally grievous to Gaud. If you go to your grave without accepting Jesus and the ONLY biblical sin you committed was eating shellfish, guess what? Hell. Your Gaud is vengeful and petty in the extreme. Fuck that guy.

Again read the bible in it's entirety. As for the shell fish read Act 10:9-16. Also when you disobey God you are willingly believing a lie instead of the truth (Roman 1:18-32). Also God has made a way out of sin through Jesus Christ. He took our penalty and paid the price for our sin (Isa 53:9). You don't have to go to hell all you have to do is repent and accept Jesus as you Lord and savior. You give him your sinful life and receive the His righteousness.
 

So what you're saying is that the punishment should not fit the nature of the crime, but the nature of the being it was committed against? That's fucking stupid.

How would you define sin?
 

If you're really going to try to tell me that the Golden Rule originates with the Bible, piss off with that shit. The Golden Rule predates the Bible by at least a few hundred years, easily.

 
Matt 7:12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
 
If you looked at the end of the statement you will see that Jesus is saying that this statement is a summery of what we now call the old testament or as he stated the Law and the Prophets. So yes this idea wasn't new when Jesus stated it. Still, it does originate with God because He is truth and the originator of all Knowledge.
 
 

No, those things require brains, and brains are made of matter.

Thoughts are still not matter
 

Because he is non-material and the box is filled with material items.

How does that stop Him form affect things?
 

Nothing says today's standard is correct, but it is better than biblical standards for reasons I've already mentioned.

 
So you are just arbitrarily judging them since there is no authority behind your judgments. My standards are based on an authority, which is the Bible.
 

Ummm...more equal rights for women and minorities, less sexism, less slavery, less violence...are we really doing this right now?

 
Matt 7:12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
 
This is mainly what is going on in the United States of America

• Abortion is legalized murder. People claim that the baby is not human just like they said about my ancestors the American slaves. In America there are 1.21 million murders of babies each year.
  
• An estimated that 14,500 to 17,500 people are trafficked into the U.S. each year
  
• About 169,202,00 Murdered in the 20th Century due to democide more than any of the previous centuries combined.
  
• Approximately 1.3 million women and 835,000 men are physically assaulted by an intimate partner annually in the United States. - See more at: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/domest...prevalence
  
• Of females killed with a firearm, almost two-thirds were killed by their intimate partners. The number of females shot and killed by their husband or intimate partner was more than three times higher than the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined in single victim/single offender incidents in 2002. - See more at: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/domest...prevalence
  
• 1,006,970 women and 370,990 men are stalked annually in the United States. - See more at: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/domest...prevalence
  
• Women are more likely to be victims of sexual violence than men: 78% of the victims of rape and sexual assault are women and 22% are men. - See more at: http://www.americanbar.org/groups/domest...prevalence
  

 
I going to leave it there but there is plenty more. We aren't better.