(August 14, 2015 at 5:01 pm)Shuffle Wrote:We need to finish the below conversation before we can continue.(August 14, 2015 at 4:38 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: It's only the FSM that makes the assertion that the only dogma is that there is no dogma.Forget all the other denominations and focus on mine. There, I gave you three.
When someone writes something, do you believe they did so with a specific meaning/intent? And if so, do you believe that the author's original intent is knowable?
Waiting for three....
(August 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:I have no problem assuming the existence of something for the sake of argument. I don't need to believe in the FSM in order to test the logic of the argumentation of his/her/its existence.(August 14, 2015 at 4:38 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: It's only the FSM that makes the assertion that the only dogma is that there is no dogma.
When someone writes something, do you believe they did so with a specific meaning/intent? And if so, do you believe that the author's original intent is knowable?
Waiting for three....
No, the FSM did not make such a claim (and you saying that must mean you believe in the FSM; otherwise, the FSM could not say anything if it did not exist, could it?). You are confusing claims made about the FSM with the FSM. You would be complaining if we made the same mistake about a Christian god, confusing what some particular Christian said about it with what its nature really was. But that is what you are doing with the FSM; you imagine that some church of the FSM saying something necessitates something about the FSM, which is false and wrong.
That's true. I'm sorry for confusing claims made about the FSM with the FSM. I agree that I would object if people were claiming something inconsistent with the revelation of the Biblical God. What does the FSM claim about him/her/itself?
@Shuffle
We need to determine if you are a false prophet of the FSM before we can continue.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?