(August 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm)abaris Wrote:(August 16, 2015 at 5:46 pm)Drich Wrote: If all slavery is wrong we are all in trouble, because modern life would not be possible if not for active modern slaves.
And we are. Some more than others. Looking at Mc Donalds or Walmart here. Or the ones that have to do two or three jobs to even survive. You on the other hand seem to be comfortably farting from your chair and to add insult to injury.
But I get it. Your particular brand of christianity is all about scripture. Words, empty word at that and no empathy for others, since, well, you can always find a bible verse to justify inhumane treatment of others. The great reward is waiting once they snuff it, am I right?
I'm not talking about any retail or food service Jobs, because they are all subject to federal minimum wage requirements. I'm talking about picking the produce you eat every day (organic or not) These jobs are not subject to federal minimum wage requirement nor do child labor law prevent children work a 12 hour shift in a field. This is how you specifically benfit from modern day slavery that goes on in this country. Not to mention the electronics, the chemicals, textiles, and all the other core products that make up modern life are also sourced from slave labor.
Why can't I say these practices are wrong? Because without them those people would starve. They wait months and sometimes years to get their families into a corperate subsidized housing to they can eat and not be homeless. They have to work at little pay because if they got what everyone in the west considers a fair wage, the products made from their core materials would be too expensive for us to buy, meaning they could not sell these products anymore. which means they would starve.
Chattle slavery is bad. this is what most of you have limited in your minds as to what All slavery is. However this is a link to the state department's identification of the types of slavery.
http://www.state.gov/j/tip/what/
In essence a slave is one who is completely dependant on another for some if not all of the basics of life and in this case is under contract to trade work for those basics.
There are many types of slavery All have the potential of being very bad (if unregulated, which is where most of it is now because people like you will not accept their role in modern slavery) but at the same time some can be benficial. in that it can provide for those who can not other wise provide for themselves.
I don't know if you guys are aware but out side of this country and a handful of others, the goverments of the rest of the world can not provide for the poor as we do. the rest of the world is on a very strict Don't work, don't eat policy. It is the consumer nature of the nations like the US and EU that provide the 'work' for the countries who can not otherwise provide for their people.
This definition of Slavery is how the ancient world worked from thousands of years. Those without worked for those who had in exchange for things, (even currency, land, to even buy their way into a family at times, but more often than not it was for the basics.) Yes Chattle slavery was apart of that equasion, but again it was not the only version of slavery being practiced, and it still had rules and regulations governing it.
Why can't I say all slavery is bad? Because we ourselves are called to be slaves under God. Not chattle, but as one working towards a goal to become apart of His family. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. Because in doing so God then becomes completely responsible for my well being. He takes that pressure of day to day life off, and then breaks it all down to very simple tasks. At the end of which I will be considered one of His own that get to share in the fullness of His riches and glory.
