RE: What is with refusing to admit slavery is wrong?
August 19, 2015 at 8:32 am
(August 18, 2015 at 4:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote: They exist. Star Trek is one example. Replicator technology and dilithium crystals! 
Like in your robots example, there will be lots of people with no need for work - all food will be pretty much inexpensive, all clothing, all manufacturing, all economics, all politics, all will be done by machines and will cost only the materials required to keep them running: power and parts. Even these may be gotten by the machines themselves, with surplus enough for human usage.
They'll be self healing, or able to repair themselves, or have other machines to repair most machines.
Everyone... well, almost everyone, will have no work left to do.
The concept of trading money for labor may become a bit outdated.
With food, power, clothing, home, will be provided by the machines, people do whatever they want - cook, paint, travel, study, plant their own stuff.
Star trek was always at best a Dream like in it's vision of the future. If infact we can develop our robotics to the point where they can replace all slave labor, then in essence the robots become our slaves. and the current unskilled work force gets bumped up with nothing to do. except get retrained and flood the market above them and so on.
Quote:You're from America, so I understand why you can't grasp the concept of not working and getting stuff... like what happens in a few social states.
Around here, unemployed people get a subsidy from the state to help them stay alive and able to find a new job.
You mean like in Greece and Italy where lazy bums are paid to do nothing. seems to be working very well for them. The whole country of Greece has now become the lazy bum of the EU and demands to be paid for not working/producing.
Quote:In a situation where goods are inexpensive due to machine labor, state-side income is also low, so there's little money to go around... well, actually, the amount of money is the same... its worth is different.... its worthless. Money becomes useless.
If you want to say that we are making slave machines, then.. yes, I agree. But aren't we just anthropomorphizing machines?
It depends on their level of consciencousness.
Quote:yeah... that's why they buy american foreign debt...
Chinese communism isn't what it used to be 20 years ago.
They are buying American debt because it is backed by American gold. If we default they empty fort knox. There are a lot of rumors that on Obama's watch that is exactly what has happened.
Quote:If a return on investment is foreseeable, then it will be done.
Only if the return exceeds available profits now and in the future. If China remain communist state then they will have no reason to leave.
Quote:I was looking a bit further in time, but yeah... you're right about the next decade... it doesn't look healthy for most humanity.
If we can't make it the next 10 years then 'time' become irrelevant.
