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Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists!
(August 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 19, 2015 at 8:23 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: To make it a little more general I think most people who defend Islam and aren't Muslim themselves use pretty dishonest tactics and argue against an imaginary foe or try to distract from the real issues that people have with Islam, or as you've done, try to somehow relate criticism of Islam with nazis and right wing groups, as though those are the only people who can have a problem with Islam, which is itself an extreme right wing ideology. To give credit to Muslims themselves, most of them online have a far more nuanced defense of Islam.

No, stop it right there. Islam and muslim are two different issues. Most people - as you just have done - don't make that distinction. I don't defend Islam just as I don't defend any other religion carried to it's extreme. I oppose equating muslim with Islam and making blanket statements, which all too many people and organisations do.

And I'm sorry, they do use the same arguments the nazis used to discredit the jews. That's a fact. You just have to google what figures like Wilders - just to give one example - say and replace muslim with jew. I'm sure some nazi statement will crop up. It's scare tactics to cash in politically.

And I extend the same courtesy to members of other religions. As long as they're not radicals, I won't attack them. If they're radicals I won't defend them. But I never will make blanket statements about any given group, just because someone happens to be a member of that group.

Lots of people use the same arguments as Nazis. But why are you bringing extreme right wing groups into this discussion at all? That's a very small percentage of the people who are critical of Muslims. Also on these forums people probably make blanket statements about Americans more than any other group.
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Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Mister Agenda - September 4, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Shuffle - September 4, 2015 at 10:35 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Mister Agenda - September 4, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - September 4, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by brewer - August 19, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by brewer - August 19, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 4:29 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Thumpalumpacus - September 4, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Shuffle - September 4, 2015 at 12:13 am
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Napoléon - August 19, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 8:23 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by abaris - August 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - August 19, 2015 at 10:12 pm
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by CapnAwesome - September 10, 2015 at 7:43 pm
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Brian37 - September 4, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Mister Agenda - September 4, 2015 at 10:22 am
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Brian37 - September 4, 2015 at 2:53 pm
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RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Not all Muslims are Terrorists! - by Iroscato - September 21, 2015 at 12:17 pm
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