The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work

[Redbeard The Pink]

Since you didn't state a person are you saying that you use your own reasoning as your authority? Or is it Chris who upkeeps the evil bible web-page?

Some of your argument were addressed by me in earlier post. You either didn't read them or out right rejected them because you deemed my were full of Christian propaganda.

Science is nice and very helpful but God is beyond nature and can alter his creation in mundane and miraculous ways. You have closed your mind to anything that isn't scientifically explained. So you make many errors when it comes to what is reality.

I know you will correct me if I am wrong but you believe that we are just the happenstance of the universe. We have just evolved by chance to be humans. Then you make a statement about how evil God is. Be honest in your world view there is not evil. There is just atoms bumping into atoms. You have no worth and I have no worth. If you give yourself worth it is just arbitrary. In my world view I can say what is evil and what isn't because people have intrinsic value given to me by God our creator. He has spoken and is still speaking and has the ability to alter His creation. He is calling people to Himself because he loves them. He seek to make people whole and heal them and He is not the evil one.

Let's be clear, here. The "authority" I'm referencing is material reality as we (humans) know it. The "authority" you're referencing is not a person or a deity, but a piece of contrived Bronze/Iron Age mythology that you've been indoctrinated into believing is the truth. My authority is the concentrated human knowledge of the modern age, whereas yours is an outdated fiction produced by humans of a primitive, scientifically ignorant age.


Miraculous powers is not the reason Gaud breaks science in the Wholly Babble. The reason Gaud breaks science in the Babble is that he obviously doesn't know it, hence whoever wrote it was not omniscient, hence the source was probably human and not an omniscient being. It's not just the magical stuff he does; the actual model for the Universe and the Solar System are nothing like what's described in the Bible, and that's just the beginning.


Now, strictly speaking, I'm not saying Gaud is evil. Gaud does not exist. What I'm saying is that if the narrative in the Babble were actually true (which it is NOT; this is hypothetical), then the Gaud it depicts would be completely evil with cruel, arbitrary morality that ignores its own standards and debases life in the most fundamental and atrocious of ways. In other words, your imaginary friend is a sick fuck.


Honestly, the happenstance of our existence is exactly what makes it worth so much. You realize you could have been any other being, right? The odds against your existence and my existence, are astronomical. When you consider the sheer number of potential gametes that could have united, the sheer number of parents we could have been born to, the sheer number of everything else involved in the series of causes and effects that brought us into being, out of all of those odds...we emerged. We are alive. We have the capacity to experience the world around us for a time, and we were born in an age where knowledge and comfort are much easier to come by than in years past. The world might not be a paradise, but when you consider the monumentally astronomical odds under which we came to live and survive in the world we live in right now, it's honestly kind of awe-inspiring. This one existence we have is a precious gift, given to us by no one, that no one but us can decide how to use. The fact that our time is limited and the only time we have makes it worth more, not less, because it means we should be striving to make the most out of THIS existence instead of striving for some perfect afterlife. My life and the lives of other humans are worth far more to me than they are to your supposed Gaud, who kills man, beast, and plant on a whim and sends most of his creation to Hell in the end.