(August 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm)Jenny A Wrote:(August 24, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not sure how your post disproves that Jacob wrestled with Jesus? Even the Jewish people saw Christ in the OT, so why can't you? I'm sure you weren't taught your opinion when you were in church. Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man.To put it less gently I asked how the heck you find Jesus in there?
GC
I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.