(August 25, 2015 at 2:18 am)robvalue Wrote: God had to justify to himself the immense cruelty he had planned for his creation. So he set them up to instantly fail.
Back in reality, none of this happened. There was no Adam and Eve. There was no "tree of ultimate deciding whether or not you know good and evil and the difference between them and all the important information you need to make informed decisions yet I'm expecting you to make one without this information".
Science is hard. Learning is hard. What would be even harder for me personally though would be saying, "Shit, this is complicated. I don't fully understand it. So it was magic instead. I'm done learning things."
Again your world view does not support cruelty we are just atom bumping up against each other. I know you find it difficult to understand how the things in the Bible could happen because you refuse to accept the Supernatural and you don't want to know God. Humility is hard (I know from experience). To say that you are not the ultimate authority over your own life is difficult. In some ways I see that it is easier to just wish sin away the problem is that you will have to pay for your actions in the end. It is easier to live in denial of the truth and not have to face the facts, but that kind of life always comes crashing down. God does not want that for you. He doesn't need to justify Himself there is no one who has authority over Him. He doesn't need to save anyone He is in the right. There is nothing in this universe He needs. You do need to be justified because you refuse to recognize your sin against a holy and perfect God. Your rejection of the truth will not save you and in God's mercy He is giving you an opportunity to know Him, the God of all creation. To be made right through His grace. He paid the way to make you right and holds out His hand so that you can experience something truly amazing. The God of the universe wants you to know Him. This isn't magic this is amazing grace! You know that this universe is amazing how about knowing the one who made it!
