(August 25, 2015 at 12:10 am)Jenny A Wrote:(August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: I believe the first question asked was for you to prove me wrong. I'm still asking prove me wrong.
Like I said Christ is the only part of the Trinity that appears as a man, it was Jesus who visited Abraham before Sodom and Gomorrah. Christ did not enter the cities only the angels. I know neither situation refers to Christ, nor do they refer to the Father, the Father is always called and referred to as Spirit, Christ the Son is always seen as man and the Holy Spirit is seen as Spirit or dove and one case as flaming tongues.
GC
You see that's where the problem lies. The OT doesn't include Jesus though it does include god appearing in a variety of ways and forms. The Hebrews who wrote it don't see the messiah showing up early. Why should you other than that you are projecting later Christian scripture on it? Absent a gloss of Christian theology there is no Jesus in those verses, just god appearing in human form.
You're right God in human form, God the Son, the Son has always shown himself in human form. The Hebrews will point to many scriptures that show Christ coming in the future. Where else would the obtain the information of the coming Messiah.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.