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Crazy shit from ezekiel.
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RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel.
(August 25, 2015 at 11:20 am)Jenny A Wrote: They wouldn't obtain information about the coming of Jesus in the OT, because it isn't there.  When Christians try to find it there, they ignore the original Jewish meanings. 

Jacob wrestling the angel is an odd story, and the Jews have their own interpretation of it and one that given the context, makes as much sense as anything.  Jacob is coming home to Esau and having stolen Esau's birthright just before he left, has some reason to doubt his welcome especially when he hears Esau is coming in force.  He sends several servants  ahead separately with a gifts of goats for Esau.  Then he separates his family and belongings from Esau by placing them on the far side of the river.  He waits alone for Esau.

But instead of meeting Esau, he meets the angel/man.  Many Jews interpret this to mean he met and wrestled with the guardian angel of Esau, which makes considerably more sense then Jesus given that the story is contained in an extended narrative about Jacob's reconciliation with Esau. . http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jacob/2/  And the conflict is symbolic of the conflict between the peoples of Jacob and the peoples of Esau. http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jacob/[url=http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jacob/2/][/url]

These early Jesus sightings are usually, like this one, the result of taking the story out of context. [Edit: Notice the Jewish interpretation is at odds with Huggy too.  So now we got three interpretations going.]

 I didn't take the story out of context, I can't see where your references adds anything to the story, to much left out of the story. Do not have time to say more will do that later.

GC
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Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 22, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 22, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 22, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 22, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 22, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 22, 2015 at 11:55 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 23, 2015 at 12:43 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 23, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 23, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by TheRealJoeFish - August 24, 2015 at 4:16 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 24, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by TheRealJoeFish - August 24, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 24, 2015 at 4:59 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 24, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 24, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by IATIA - August 24, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 25, 2015 at 12:10 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 25, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 25, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Ravenshire - August 25, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 25, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Ravenshire - August 25, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Ravenshire - August 24, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 22, 2015 at 10:08 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Longhorn - August 23, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Lemonvariable72 - August 25, 2015 at 12:34 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Mudhammam - August 25, 2015 at 1:52 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Huggy Bear - August 25, 2015 at 7:19 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 22, 2015 at 10:01 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 22, 2015 at 10:05 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 22, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 22, 2015 at 11:21 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by IATIA - August 23, 2015 at 6:41 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 23, 2015 at 9:15 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Minimalist - August 22, 2015 at 11:07 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Spooky - August 22, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Minimalist - August 23, 2015 at 2:06 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by IATIA - August 23, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 24, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 24, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 24, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Jenny A - August 24, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Brakeman - August 24, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by TheRealJoeFish - August 24, 2015 at 11:15 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Godschild - August 25, 2015 at 10:06 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Crossless1 - August 25, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by TheRealJoeFish - August 25, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Ravenshire - August 25, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Neo-Scholastic - August 25, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Crazy shit from ezekiel. - by Rhondazvous - August 25, 2015 at 4:10 pm

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