Evil

[robvalue]

I'll give it one last try.

In a given situation, under a specific value system, we could agree that there is a subset of actions which are of optimum morality.

However, any particular action (such as punching someone in the face) is neither moral nor immoral inherently. To decide how moral it is, we need a value system. We may decide that people getting punched in the face is bad. We may decide punching some kind of people is fine, but not others. Until we decide this value system, we can't assess any action, let alone find the optimum one.

And again, it will depend on the situation (self defence?) The morality of the action therefor depends on both the value system and the context, so is not objective.

Another simple example. I have time to save either a boy or a dog from the burning building before it collapses. Which is the correct moral choice?

There isn't one, until a value system is agreed. If Jim thinks humans are "worth more" than dogs, it will be most moral for him to save the dog. If Jack thinks dogs are worth more, it will be more moral to save the dog. Who is right? Neither are right. The only thing which will be the deciding factor in how the action is viewed is whose value system is closer to the general one held by the society in question.

Even people who have similar but very slightly different value systems can debate endlessly which is the more moral action. Who is right? What does it even mean to say someone is right? The only thing "objective" about morality is that nothing is moral or immoral until someone judges that it is. We generally go by an analysis of help and harm. But there are all different kinds of help and harm. How do we compare them? Situations are very complex, and our valuation of how bad certain types of harm are, and how much certain types of help matter will completely determine what is "most moral".

If you have a different idea of what morality is Nestor then I don't know what it is, so you'd need to say what morality means to you explicitly And also what objective morality means. Because I honestly don't get how it can possibly work.