RE: Christians - What would you do if it were discovered Jesus never existed?
September 8, 2015 at 11:31 am
(September 7, 2015 at 11:36 pm)Irrational Wrote: Not sure what your point here is. Are you trying to say that Jesus was never seen as an earthly figure by the early Christians because ... look what these irrelevant texts about ancient Greek mythological characters say!!!
Xtians who claim to accept the bullshit story that the church later put out must address the problem that "paul," allegedly the first writer, doesn't know shit from shinola about the earthly jesus story. He never heard of Pilate, Joseph, Mary, Caiaphas, Nazareth, virgin births, miracles, sayings, or parables. He mentions that he learned the story through revelation on numerous occasions. The epistles which are clearly pseudoepigraphic can be dismissed in total as later propaganda which means that one need only look at the interpolations made into the so-called "authentic" pauline writings. Paul's 'jesus' is a space cadet operating in an other-wordly realm.
Later xtians took the bare bones story and back-dated it to the early first century and set it in Palestine. They wrote a historical novel to fool people. "Mark," cleverly, even offers an explanation as to why no one heard the tale before:
Quote:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
7 But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you.
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.
That's the original ending of 'mark' and it explains why decades had gone by and the story did not spread....because the women were chickenshit and said nothing. Of course, somehow, we then have to ignore the issue of how "mark" learned of the story.
The point is that what was later put forward for the godboy was commonplace in the Greek/Roman literature of the time. It was very typical story telling and we don't need any special pleading - Oh, but JESUS really was the son of god - to explain the tale. Just bullshit like all the other current myths. In fact, Carrier draws the closest parallels to the Romulus story which was certainly known in the Roman empire.