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Saint Peter's Bones
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RE: Saint Peter's Bones
(September 15, 2015 at 6:56 am)Randy Carson Wrote:
(September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I don't know enough about St. Peter's bones to opine.  But anyone who bothers to look at the proportions of the body depicted on the shroud of Turin knows it's a fake.  No real person has those proportions, but art made at the time it first surfaced did.  Surely if Jesus were monstrously out of proportion to the extent of being a freak of nature, someone would have mentioned it?  It's not even as if it's a genetic defect commonly found or recognized it's not.  No one has those proportions.  It's as if the shroud first came to light ten or fifteen years ago in Japan and had the huge eyes and bodily proportions of anime cartoons.

(September 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: You have raised this objection on more than one occasion...what proportions do you find to be problematic, Jenny?

I have a 35" sleeve, and I can position my hands as shown on the shroud WITHOUT dislocating my shoulders as would have happened to Jesus during the hours he spent on the cross.

I hope you will take a few moments to read the following article which confirms what I posted to you previously.

New study shows Man of the Shroud had “dislocated” arms
Four university professors have published an article in “Injury” magazine revealing that the crucified man that was wrapped in the Turin Shroud suffered a dislocation of the humerus, the paralysis of one arm and a violent trauma to the neck and chest. There are also traces of a double wrist-nailing
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/wor...rio-33948/

"Only part of the study has been published so far [at the time the article was publised in 2014] in Injury , the prestigious International Journal of the Care of the Injured. The rest of the study is to follow shortly. The four experts involved in the research are: Matteo Bevilacqua  of the Hospital-University of Padua, Italy; Giulio Fanti of the Department of Industrial Engineering, University of Padua, Italy; Michele D’Arienzo of the Orthopaedic Clinic at the University of Palermo, Italy and Raffaele De Caro of the Institute of Anatomy at the University of Padua, Italy."

I'm talking faces not arms Randy.  Open your eyes and look:

Here is the face depicted in the shroud:


[Image: shroud-of-turin.jpg]

Here is a sampling of missdrawn faces in which, like the image on the shroud, the eyes are not just a little, but way, way too high:

[Image: gory_face%20drawings%20Perception_free_0.jpg]

Here is a drawing from the middle ages with typical high eye placement:

[Image: cat110r2_49b-150x150.jpg]

The is what faces really look like:

[Image: th?id=JN.hptNjHIIVkT8zMkFfrVVjQ&pid=15.1...=300&h=300]


So:  1) the shroud's head in anatomically impossible; 2) it is impossible in the same way that art during the period the shroud was first "discovered" depicted impossible faces.  Put two and two together. It's a painting or a relief of a sculpture. No person could have a brain that size and live. If such a person were preaching, people would be repulsed. At a minimum they'd notice.

And no the problem is not that we can't see the top of the image's head as the image already has a very long face--almost impossible long. What we'd get is this:

[Image: media.nl?id=53506&c=801044&h=2c318f09f594de081dc8]


Now, try this on your own face, your wife's face or anyone elses face. Measure from the top of the head to the middle of the eyes. Now from the middle of the eyes to the chin. You will find that ALL people have eyes around 40 to 45% from the top of the head. No one has higher eyes. But the portraits painted and sculpted when the shroud surfaced almost all do. And so does the shroud. You can test this real quick just by roughing it out with your fingers.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Messages In This Thread
Saint Peter's Bones - by Fake Messiah - September 13, 2015 at 5:29 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Crossless1 - September 13, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 13, 2015 at 8:00 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 13, 2015 at 7:09 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by dyresand - September 13, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 13, 2015 at 7:32 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 13, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by abaris - September 13, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 13, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 13, 2015 at 8:43 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 13, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 13, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 13, 2015 at 9:36 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by vorlon13 - September 13, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 13, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 13, 2015 at 11:44 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 4:34 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:56 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:08 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 7:08 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Cecelia - September 13, 2015 at 11:58 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2015 at 12:06 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 14, 2015 at 8:58 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Angrboda - September 14, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 1:12 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 14, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by KevinM1 - September 14, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Cecelia - September 14, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 14, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 14, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2015 at 4:39 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 14, 2015 at 4:35 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Iroscato - September 14, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Longhorn - September 14, 2015 at 4:18 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by KevinM1 - September 14, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Crossless1 - September 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by abaris - September 14, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 14, 2015 at 8:40 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 15, 2015 at 11:30 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 15, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by abaris - September 15, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 15, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Iroscato - September 15, 2015 at 12:00 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 15, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Iroscato - September 15, 2015 at 12:13 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 15, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by abaris - September 15, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 15, 2015 at 1:34 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Mudhammam - September 15, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Iroscato - September 15, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Iroscato - September 15, 2015 at 7:49 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:55 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 15, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 16, 2015 at 2:24 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 16, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 15, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 7:12 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 15, 2015 at 7:23 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 15, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 15, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 16, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 16, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 16, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 17, 2015 at 10:41 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Randy Carson - September 20, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Wyrd of Gawd - September 20, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Jenny A - September 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by ignoramus - September 17, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Saint Peter's Bones - by Minimalist - September 20, 2015 at 8:06 pm

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