RE: Evil
September 16, 2015 at 4:11 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2015 at 4:58 am by robvalue.)
Thank you!
Yes, it seems you totally got my point
Honourable, yes, I like that. Often when I decide upon my actions, I don't do something even if it doesn't objectively cause any harm, just because I would consider it dishonourable. I would know it was somehow "wrong" to do, even if no one else would ever know I did it; nor would it hurt anyone. This shows that, to you and me at least, morality is about intent and not consequences.
A very quick example: spying on someone getting changed. If I was careful I could probably get away with it, they wouldn't know or be harmed as such. But I'd consider it immoral to do so, because I'm invading their privacy without their consent.
PS, to clear up an earlier point:
Let's say Jim from ISIS cuts off someone's head because he truly believes it will please Allah to do so, and that ultimately that is in mankind's best interest. From his point of view, that is a moral action. He intends "good" consequences. I judge it to be an immoral action if I did the same action because my beliefs are different. But it isn't me doing the action, it is him. I can try and convince Joe that actually Allah doesn't exist and cutting people's heads off isn't in mans' best interest. Maybe he'll agree, and stop doing it. If he did agree, but then cut someone's head off for no reason, it would be immoral by his new standard.
Yes, it seems you totally got my point
Honourable, yes, I like that. Often when I decide upon my actions, I don't do something even if it doesn't objectively cause any harm, just because I would consider it dishonourable. I would know it was somehow "wrong" to do, even if no one else would ever know I did it; nor would it hurt anyone. This shows that, to you and me at least, morality is about intent and not consequences.
A very quick example: spying on someone getting changed. If I was careful I could probably get away with it, they wouldn't know or be harmed as such. But I'd consider it immoral to do so, because I'm invading their privacy without their consent.
PS, to clear up an earlier point:
Let's say Jim from ISIS cuts off someone's head because he truly believes it will please Allah to do so, and that ultimately that is in mankind's best interest. From his point of view, that is a moral action. He intends "good" consequences. I judge it to be an immoral action if I did the same action because my beliefs are different. But it isn't me doing the action, it is him. I can try and convince Joe that actually Allah doesn't exist and cutting people's heads off isn't in mans' best interest. Maybe he'll agree, and stop doing it. If he did agree, but then cut someone's head off for no reason, it would be immoral by his new standard.
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