(September 17, 2015 at 11:05 am)Rekeisha Wrote:(September 17, 2015 at 3:55 am)robvalue Wrote: Maybe I should start telling people who is and isn't a true Christian.
Let's get started.
Who has eaten shrimp?
Who has worn clothes made of more than one fabric?
Who has a tattoo?
Who has worked on a Sunday?
That's just round 1. How many have I ousted so far?
A christian is not one because of the dos and don'ts they have preforemed. A christian is someone who has accepted Christ death and ressurection for their sins. As a result of this they come in to a right relationship with God. Jesus perfect life (in which He fullfilled all of the law) and His death is accredited to those who believe. So your list is fullfilled in Christ life. I am now free to fullfill the law of christ because I am no longer a slave to sin.
You either don't understand or refuse to understand what a christian is. So I have fullfulled round 1 through my savior Christ Jesus.
Please read my signature (you have to scroll down for the non funny part). Then tell me how you feel about shrimp and Jesus. I'm intrigued, truly, how your savior talks to you. Does he show up in the middle of the night in a white robe? Or does he just tell you what you want to hear whenever you need/want it? Isn't it more reasonable that your god delusion is simply that, a made up voice in your head with all the prerequisite attributes you yourself have given it based upon what you read in a book? I can do that too--I can look at the world through Donald Trumps eyes and shake my head at Obama and presuppose that I'm the single other person on this earth he doesn't think to be an idiot because I have faith in him and I have the "right" color skin. All of which I've gotten simply from reading his 'stance' on things. We humans (and other species!) have developed a profound ability called empathy. It's needed for socialization. As a prior Christian (who indeed actually believed so fervently I denied chemotherapy in place of faith healing), I can honestly say that the voice in my head was just me projecting the god I wanted to be there, not an actual external being. If you have a problem believing that, then you are in denial and I'd suggest beginning with the fundamentals of the god you proclaim to believe in.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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