(September 24, 2015 at 1:57 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: Sin is the reason why people reject God. It isn't because of critical thinking skills or that reality says otherwise. Reality, uniformity, knowledge, justice doesn't make a bit of sense without Him.
You know, Rekeisha, I'm not especially interested in engaging with you, since you have made it quite clear that you have blown your brains out with the bullet of cult-member thinking, and can't even consider a rationalist approach because your cult leaders told you to just believe and not question, to reject the power of your own brain. It's horrifying to watch.
That said, you managed in three brief sentences to enumerate everything that irritates me about how you cultists talk about us, and how you interact with what we like to call reality.
I have specifically told you the reasons I rejected your cult (which was my cult, back then, likely before you were born), and it doesn't involve sin. I'm trying to even figure out what sins I would have wanted to commit, back then. I didn't drink, didn't swear, and was a virgin when I left the faith. Even today, I am frequently told by my Christian friends and Christian fiancee that I am one of the most honor- and morals-driven people they know, and have even been told that I am ironically "more Christlike" than they are (in fairness, I've only been told this by two people, but in total sincerity).
Other than the fact that, as I progressed toward my new mindset I began to reject some of Christianity's silly Bronze Age notions about women and about sex, and to study human sexuality from a scientific POV, I rejected the idea of "waiting for marriage", but that's nto why I left the faith. It's not even close. And it infuriates me that you claim I just wanted to sin. My own father told me that stupid line, recently, and I invited him to tell me what sins he meant-- what did he think I found so heinous in the Bible that I would abandon God so I could do it? I also pointed out to him that I consider myself more moral than the Bible, because I reject slavery for any reason, I reject subjugation and suppression of women, and I find most of the genocide, anti-religious-freedom, and conform-or-be-murdered commands in the Old Testament to be in conflict with the US Constitution and with my own moral sense. But these are all positions I adopted as an adult, after leaving the faith at 17, when I had to actually give thought to such questions I had ignored, before.
Your attacks on "Reality, uniformity, knowledge, justice" making no sense without God is the kind of talking that convinces me you're just like any other cultist. It is insanity to state that I can only have knowledge or accept reality through the lens of a religious book and the teachings within. And you will never, never convince me that a being that I see as not one bit different from a rapist, in moral terms, a stronger being demanding obedience and submission via threat of torture, is giving out "justice" when people are punished for not guessing that the right religion out of the thousands that exist is the "special revelation" given to one particular group of nomadic sheepherders in the ancient Near East.
The fact that you can even think (or rather, accept what you were obviously told) that people only leave Christianity because they want to sin tells me all I need to know about your cult.
If you want to know, sin goes beyond what you act out. Sin starts with the heart. It is a heart condition. You don't whan to follow the God of creation and you think your ways are higer than His and you think your thoughts are higher than His. You lie about His character and lean on your own understanding. This is sin. I follow God and He is the one that made everything and Has every right to judge us. Still, it is your choice. You will do as you please and I am here to tell you the truth. As you have heard, and one day I pray that you truly experience, is that God does love you and seeks to save you from your sin through the death and ressurection of Jesus christ. You must actually repent and put your faith in Him, the one who loves your soul.
