(September 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: You say He does but you've failed to prove it. The children of Israel broke the covenant, therefore they lost what they were given as God said they would.
Aractus Wrote:How can they break an unconditional covenant GC?
They were given the land, God told them what to take and they didn't, they quit on God's promise and God, from the time they left Egypt till they stop taking the lands they were suppose to. Remember God wouldn't let the generation that came out of Egypt even try and take the land, they all wondered around in the desert and died over a forty year period. The covenant was never conditional.
(September 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Eggs and cheeses and milks from various animals all contain B12, these were things people could eat because it did not require the killing of animals, and since you seem to be lacking in Bible knowledge let me remind you, God created the domestic animals also, God knew what was needed, God supplies our needs.
Aractus Wrote:Eggs contain a fraction of the B12 that is found in meat - about 1/3rd or so. The amount in two eggs weighing 120g together would be 1/8th or so of what would be found in a 300g piece of meat.
But, GC, they couldn't eggs anyway because they hadn't been instructed to. They couldn't eat dairy as there were no domesticated Aurochs in ancient times, most people didn't have one of the lactate persistence genes (and even today most of the world's population doesn't) - and there is no instruction from God to eat dairy. Furthermore, milk contains only around 1/3d the amount of B12 found in Eggs - let alone found in meat!! You would need to drink 2L of milk to get the same amount of B12 in a 350g steak.
By the way domestic animals weren't created by God - he claimed to have domesticated all animals (or at least have made them all fear man) to Noah - however all domestic animals were domesticated from wild animals.
Genesis 1:24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds- livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. 25) And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to it's kind. And God saw that it was good.
Now tell me if God created livestock and the people were not suppose to use them for over 1700 years then why did He create them, livestock are domesticated animals. (livestock-animals kept to be used)
!00g of beef contains up to 83ug of B12 and an adult only needs 2.5ug daily to have a healthy level of B12, so the very portions you posted for eggs and dairy would be more than enough B12 daily. So get off the B12 deal it's a dead issue now. Also you are leaving the context of scripture again, livestock is domesticated animals and created by God, they weren't evolved, I do agree some kinds of animals were domesticated from wild animals as man needed them.
(September 28, 2015 at 4:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: Know if you would show me where God said the covenant was unconditional, I'm pretty sure that word is not found in the scriptures.
Aractus Wrote:Genesis 12. There is no "unconditional" word but no conditions whatsoever are given to Abram.
Genesis 12:7 Then the LORD appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built there an altar to the LORD, who had appeared to him there. Your right I've provided the verse and it says, God will give them the land and He did, no what, ifs, and or buts to it, God gave them the land. That was the whole promise to Abram. God didn't say to him He wouldn't take the land from them for reasons God deemed necessary.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.