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Thiests - Assuming God exists, why should we worship him?
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RE: Thiests - Assuming God exists, why should we worship him?
(November 23, 2010 at 11:56 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote:


1-Then you missed my point I said God and Jesus are not the same entities, and there was a sacrifice. The fact that he knew about it does not limit his free actions as expressed by his doubt in the Garden nor does it lessen his sacrifice.
2-And I don’t deny human love is not some mystical immaterial tangible other than a reaction to stimuli interpreted by the Brain. My point was the stimuli is being interpreted by our mental physical processes doesn’t force the fact that we have to see the stimuli. You said that every sense of love we have is backed by our emotions and which is based out of our physical cognitive processes, which I don’t deny. However you then go on to assume that only physical/material inputs are required for a response, which isn’t the case. You can “feel” that someone loves you though you’re miles away and it can “warm your heart”. It doesn’t require any more than an abstract thought or idea to change your emotional state. That being said as long as the input event is realistically evaluated, it’s a vaid emotion response from reality.
3-Well you’re entitled to believe whatever you like, I’m not here to convert or convince you. I agree that religions are cultural phenomenon, but they’re not about evidence. Religion exists because people question and don’t understand their origins, purpose and predicaments. It’s either a methodology to explain a real phenomenon, a social control, or personal rationalization or some mix of them all.
4-My intent wasn’t to avoid anything. I don’t know God’s plan, but I see that we’re all here to learn grow and develop into something better. I don’t see us as marooned, just limited by our understanding. If our purpose is to learn and grow, what a vast area of expansion God’s given us to grow into hunh Tongue
5-I assure you I don’t have the time nor energies to spend spinning, nor is that a theologians purpose. Many scriptures talk about taking the “letter of the Law” further to intention. The Law was also a tool for condemnation which is opposed to Jesus’ teachings of God’s Grace.
6-You’re correct I missed it in my rush I apologize. You stated :
“we can't both have freewill and there be a god axiomatically worthy of worship, becuase we have to yield our freewill to perform the worship. Unless you are to argue that freewill is active only to the point at which you have decided to come to a god, after that you have to give up freewill. Thus you would argue that we don't have freewill at least in matters of moral autonomy.”
I don’t see a contradiction you don’t have to give up your free will to worship God, it’s an act of free will to worship God or to do your own thing. Perhaps you could rephrase because I don’t see a contradiction between free will and worship.

(November 23, 2010 at 3:14 pm)Thor Wrote:

1- The second sentence was because you seem to be under the impression that I’m a literalist and attribute lightning to the finger of God. As for the rest I’m not aware of any worldwide flood ever happening. Correct those weren’t acts of nature they here parable.
2- And tons of children die of parental neglect without the God told me excuse. God isn’t an excuse not to think and reason, but I agree that in practice it happens less frequently than it should. As for the rest communication is a 2 way street.
3- I do question and distrust my faith in God, quite frequently.
4- I was referring to your comments about the things that exist that are in opposition to life and referred you to my answer 4 from the above quote.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

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RE: Thiests - Assuming God exists, why should we worship him? - by tackattack - November 24, 2010 at 7:39 am

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