(September 30, 2015 at 11:57 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:(September 30, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Look, GC, I'm trying really hard not to laugh at you, and to take you seriously, here. But you're making it tough on me.
You are seriously arguing that, despite thousands of archaeologists who do enter their countries, they somehow test to make sure they're not Christians before they grant the permits?
You are seriously arguing that they're so worried about Israel being a modern nation that they're willing to deny that there ever was an historical Israel?!
You are seriously arguing that even though the story of Moses is in the Qur'an, they hate the Israelis and Christians so much that they'd rather hide proof of the Qur'an being true, in order to hide the proof of the other two being true as well? Even though it backs up all three of them at the same time!?!
What is the American Research Center in Egypt (ARCE), then, which just made this major discovery a few months ago?
Why did Egypt allow Christian researchers from Spain to find this image of Jesus instead of covering it up?
And so on. I could go on for hours listing all the Christian (and neutral/academic) groups doing research in Muslim countries.
Your dude is a charlatan. He plays to your ignorance about how Muslim countries work in order to make himself famous, make it seem like he has the truth but that there's a conspiracy against him. But it doesn't hold up when you shine the light on the hypothesis!
Wake up!
Laugh all you want, it's not going to bother me, now that said to something a little more serious.
The image could be of anyone and is likely not of Jesus, if it is it doesn't prove a thing, I can show people thousands of images called Jesus. I think that should settle that.
There are people like Moses in the Quran, mostly to lead back to Abraham to validate them as a people and connected to Allah whoever he may be. I've never heard a Muslim defend these people except for Abraham because he's their link to Allah. The OT part of the Quran has no relevance to them, it is the teachings of Muhammad they follow. Christianity is outlawed in Iran and Saudi Arabia and Christians are persecuted in most of the Middle East, so yeah they do not want Christians nosing around sites that could damage their standing. Egypt is still in denial that they had black Pharaohs, their own national history museum doesn't even list pharaohs for that particular (25th) dynasty, so yeah I think they want to keep things as they are, they've shown that.
He's not my dude, he's a man looking to show the stories of the Bible are true and I watch to see what comes up, just as I do with non-Christian sites. Yes I'm awake, it's that I see things differently than you do that causes you to believe I'm asleep. We have different views on the way people think, we both have evidence for our views, you see it from a secular point of view and I see it from a spiritual world view and the Muslim see it from a spiritual point of view in opinion.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
