RE: The Paradox of Power....
October 2, 2015 at 12:34 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2015 at 12:47 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
20,000 is a pretty amazing figure to throw out there as an assertion.
There are Muslim cities destroyed by the Crusaders that were more than 20,000 people.
A single example, from the website below:
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
Sources cited in quote:
[EC]
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.
[WW]
H.Wollschlger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zrich 1973.
Please. When have facts ever slowed a fundie down?
There are Muslim cities destroyed by the Crusaders that were more than 20,000 people.
A single example, from the website below:
Quote:after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
Sources cited in quote:
[EC]
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.
[WW]
H.Wollschlger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zrich 1973.
(October 2, 2015 at 12:13 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: I'm thinking Ronnie is going to bail out from this barrage of facts.
Please. When have facts ever slowed a fundie down?
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