(October 1, 2015 at 2:18 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(October 1, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Rekeisha Wrote: So you can't account for uniformity. If there is nothing out there that is making things stay in order why do you assume that there will be order?
Because, regardless of why it happens, we can observe the Universe behaving in a more or less orderly, consistent fashion. There is evidence that order exists, even if there is no evidence to explain why the rules exist the way they do.
Quote:Being a true Christian isn't like a job or being a fan. If you thought I was something like that then that is further proof that you weren't a Christian. Christianity isn't just holding a set of beliefs it is transformational. It is kind of like being of a certain race. I can't undo my color because it is written on my DNA. I can't undo my faith in God because I am now a new creation. That is why God spoke about being born again. You can try but you don't get to make up your own definition about what being a Christian and what Christianity really is. You can call that indoctrination I would just call it being consistent with the truth.
I didn't always think of it in those ways, but now that I'm not a Christian I certainly do. When I was a Christian, I thought more or less like you; I thought that my beliefs were based on evidence from scripture and the world around me, and I thought that anyone who didn't believe it just didn't know Gaud like I did. Like you, I was indoctrinated into using the No True Scotsman fallacy to explain/describe people who didn't meet my perceived Biblical standard for what "Christian" meant.
You're right. I don't get to make up my own definition for Christian, and neither do you. If a person professes faith in Jesus Christ and self-identifies as Christian, that person is a Christian by the standards and definitions of all non-Christians and all the Christians who agree with that person's version of Christianity. If a person professes a positive attitude toward the Yankees and self-identifies as a Yankees fan, they are a Yankees fan by the standards of all non-Yankees fans and all Yankees fans who aren't so uppity they think they can say who's a fan and who isn't. It is the exact same thing. You're just a Yankees fan who thinks she can say that other people aren't fans just because they don't show enough team spirit or whatever.
Quote:You were not a Christian if (with scripture references)
You did not receive the revelation from God that He is God (Mt. 16:16-18)
You never gave your life to Him in order to enjoy Him and glorify Him. ( l Cor. 10:31, Ps 84:2)
You never knew God or wanted to be like Him and became like Him. (2 Cor 3:18)
You never had power over you sin nature and you didn't enjoy your sin because of your love for God. (Romans 6:11-13)
You left the faith and turned your back on God (1 john 2:19 John 10:28)
You're not a true Christian unless you follow the teachings of Christ, and Christ taught his disciples to preach a message one time, and then dust of their feet and move on if the message wasn't received. By repeatedly proselytizing to people who have not readily accepted your message, you are blatantly ignoring the teachings of Christ, which means you obviously can't be a True Christian.
Quote:I don't mind being bathed in the blood of Christ because it is the only way I will be able to stand before a holy God and be called righteous. The Kool-aid of our generation kills.
Ok, that. That right there. You just joyfully and proudly admitted that your religion revolves around drinking and bathing in the blood of a human sacrifice. How can you not see how cultish that is? How can you not fucking see that? You wonder why I keep calling you stupid? This shit right here. If you were talking about bathing in the blood of Cthulu's slain foes, it would be crazy, but because it's Jesus and not Cthulu that makes it ok? Do you even listen to yourself? You're in a zombie vampire cult.
You can't account for uniformity you can't be certain that tomorrow there will be uniformity. If you can't be certain about that then you can't be certain about logic and
We don't believe the same. As I have said before I met God before I could read the bible. God revealed to me that He is God. Then He lead me to the bible and His word. Everything He told me before I read the bible was in the Bible. Yes I Know the Bible is true. Yes I know how the bible was formed. Yes I know who God is. God is the author and finisher of my faith. So He started it and He will finish it. My life isn't about may ability to stay a Christian because like I said if it were up to me I would have walked away a long time ago.
His commission to the disciples is different than the great commission. Jesus sent the disciples on a short term mission trip as training for the future and laying the ground work for the fulfilled gospel. I have already had this discussion with God and He says do not grow weary of doing God so here I will stay. Until when I don't know.
I was using biblical verbiage (rev 7:14) and I knew you would take it that way. Still is the truth even if you don't understand. Did you not agree with this when you claimed Christianity? Where you in a cult if you did?
