(October 6, 2015 at 7:08 pm)Evie Wrote: @ Rocketsurgeon You missed my point completely, I'm repulsed by non-consensual sex regardless of sex. Is that homophobia?
EDIT: It's irrational of me but merely hypothetically suggesting that I might be the slightest bit homophobic has upset me quite a bit. I apologise for being so overly sensitive.
If I wanted to suck a dick I'm sure I'd enjoy it. Seen as I don't want to and thus far at least have never been attracted to a man then if I were to suck a penis it would not be with my consent. I find non-consensual activity repulsive. Clear? Please don't think of me as homophobic I want to be your friend as I have a neurotic need to be liked by everyone I meet.
With all due respect, I think the "non-consent" is a non-sequitur, and a red herring. Of course non-consensual sex is repulsive to most people! What I was pointing out was that you implied that the only possible way you could have oral sex with a man is if he was forcing you. That is a degree of repulsion that I felt went beyond mere disinterest, and warranted some self-examination on your part.
The point I was trying to make, in that example, was that denying you have homophobia in your heart while expressing clear repulsion for the sex-act is an indicator of hidden (even from self) homophobia. It's like denying that you have some element of racism in your heart is a pretty good indicator that you have some element of racist feelings in your heart, even if you have not really examined them. It's the reason that people like Stephen Colbert mock those who claim to be "color-blind".
But there's a world of difference between pointing out to you the racist programming you've absorbed (as have we all) from your culture, and encouraging you to seek to expunge it and become a better person, versus calling you a "racist" in the sense of being in the Ku Klux Klan or other White Supremacist or Nazi sympathizer ideological fields of thought.
I don't hate you, I'm not mad at you, and I don't think less of you. I also don't think you hate gay people. Don't worry!
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
