(October 6, 2015 at 7:22 pm)Evie Wrote: I have no repulsion for the sex act at all.... only doing it when I don't want to.... what is not repulsive about being made to do something you don't want to do sexually? Hypothetically speaking.
To be honest I find this all rather condescending and petty and since I know I'm not homophobic but I don't know Rocketsurgeon, I consider it possible he is more homophobic than myself, since I know I'm not one bit already and I don't know him. Maybe you are hiding your own insecurities Rocketsurgeon? Should I be distrusting of you too?
Here is a point for you Rocketsurgeon: Instead of distrusting my motives and banging on about what I first said - maybe you can give me the benefit of the doubt as a fairly intelligent and decent human being and let me clarify my position.
If you're going to attack homophobia which is totally justified of course - why don't you go and argue with real genuine homophobes instead of me? I'm not stupid enough to be such a bigot.
*sigh* "Condescending and petty"? "maybe you are hiding your own insecurities"?
As the Bard once put it, in Hamlet, "The [gentleman] doth protest too much, methinks."
Whence the source of your anger? Is it really so impossible that you have some undiscovered homophobia in your heart, something which is not your fault because it is undiscovered, and which was implanted there without your awareness by the culture that says to fear our fellow man? But rather than stop and wonder, "do i have such ideas?", you chose to lash out at me.
The fact that you felt the need to deflect with the stuff about not being attracted to men (I am also not attracted to men) as a way of dodging the question of whether or not you feel in your heart that the sex act of dick-sucking is itself a degrading and/or disgusting thing to do, indicates to me that there's more going on beneath the surface. If there was nothing else going on, then you would have found it easy to just say, "Yeah I guess there's absolutely no problem with it. Not gross. Just not something I feel compelled to do."
Again, I don't think you're a homophobe. That doesn't mean you (and I) don't house some unexamined homophobia, which (being "not stupid enough to be a bigot", as we both are) we would quickly expunge from our thought-processes, the moment we realized it was there. If you cannot consider the possibility that it is there...
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
