(October 7, 2015 at 12:11 am)Delicate Wrote: Part of the reason your post wasn't clear was because if you addressed the question in any more detail it was interspersed with your attacks on Rekeisha, apologetics, William Lane Craig and probably eight dozen others. Not worth sitting through all that.
But I see the "We don't know. Nobody knows." part. Was that a summary of your answer?
Yes, it is a summary of my answer. As is the next sentence, "but we have some pretty good ideas".
That is why I referenced you to the link about Dr. Carroll and his debate on the teleological argument with WLC.
What I was referring you to, in regard to why I don't wish to get into more detail without knowing the motivations of the poster with whom I am exchanging words (and effort), is the entire rest of that post.
Hint: It wasn't about attacking her, but about stating why I thought it was a pointless discussion to have. If you are here to suggest that I was wrong in my assessment, present your case for why I was wrong about her.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
