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Abraham and Jewish History?!?
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RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!?
A good book on the historicity of the Old Testament is The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts by Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman. It has been like three years since I have read it, however it is a fantastic book which argues through interpreting the archeological evidence that in all likely hood, characters such as Abraham and Moses were fictional. Hell, they are even doubting if David and Solomon were ruling over a united Israel as opposed to tribal chieftains.

My reading of that book helped to inform me greatly of my reading of the Old Testament. For example; I noticed a section in 2 Kings 22 where King Josiah's high priest Hilkiah "found" a scroll of the law of Moses in the temple. Reading The Bible Unearthed with the archeological and historical evidence presented of the Israelites practicing polytheism to a much latter date than the bible asserts, makes me suspect that the Torah was first written or complied around the reign of Josiah.

I agree with Finkelstein and Silberman that the whole field of biblical archeology has been greatly damaged in the past by archeologists using the bible to inform archeological evidence.

(September 26, 2010 at 6:04 am)solja247 Wrote: I have spent a bit of time looking at the historicity of the Bible, mostly Moses, Abraham and other patriachs. I was reading a lot of skeptic 'mainstream' archaeology and history, saying that Abraham did not exist and was a fabrication, I went to a friend of mine, a biblical scholar, and he asked me a powerful question; Why should we not believe Abraham existed? People want evidence for Abraham's existence, but isnt that absurd? Should we expect evidence? My skeptic mind had no answer, after all, there are large gaps in history, massive gaps, perhaps we should be a little more careful when dismiss historical characters, such as Abraham?
Another thing to take into consideration, is the fact that the Jews had a very very very strong oral tradition. We should NOT dismiss oral, espicially if there is no reason too. Oral tradition is what people used, a fine example of this is the rainbow serpent, in Aboriginal's mythology they believe a rainbow serpent created Australia (or the world?) we know they believe this through oral tradition, they didnt write, they drew and had symbols. Never the less, relied HEAVILY on oral tradition and we take their oral traiditions as being credible, being passed down from generation to generation for thousands of years. However, for some reason, people dismiss the Bible as quick as they can, and largely have no reason why, they dismiss Jewish history (Although they dont dismiss other culture's history) as being 'made up' by the Religous leaders, being copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh and other sacred mythological texts. Is this a reasonable conclusion to come too? Why should we believe that Abraham did not exist?

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Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - September 26, 2010 at 6:04 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Zen Badger - September 26, 2010 at 8:19 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Cerrone - September 26, 2010 at 8:52 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 26, 2010 at 8:30 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 26, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - September 26, 2010 at 9:50 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Cerrone - September 26, 2010 at 10:25 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Zen Badger - September 26, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 26, 2010 at 10:09 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - September 26, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Cerrone - September 27, 2010 at 2:06 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by theVOID - September 27, 2010 at 1:35 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 27, 2010 at 8:21 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by theVOID - September 27, 2010 at 8:47 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Dotard - December 3, 2010 at 10:57 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 27, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - September 28, 2010 at 8:24 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by theVOID - September 28, 2010 at 9:10 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Cerrone - September 28, 2010 at 10:14 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by theVOID - September 28, 2010 at 10:17 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - September 28, 2010 at 7:47 pm
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - October 8, 2010 at 2:55 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Cerrone - October 8, 2010 at 7:24 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Minimalist - October 8, 2010 at 3:14 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by solja247 - October 8, 2010 at 5:40 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Loki_999 - October 8, 2010 at 5:52 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2010 at 6:31 am
RE: Abraham and Jewish History?!? - by Justtristo - December 3, 2010 at 8:37 am

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