(October 12, 2015 at 10:06 am)Drich Wrote: Do you see it? You do Not care how actual Christianity works, This is stereotyping because you have asserted your feelings on how you THINK ALL of Christianity works on this matter, and this is also Bigotry because we all should do as you say rather than hold fast to our religious beliefs. (which again means we should treat everyone the same who fall under sexual sin.) Because you perceive that we ALL don't, (Even though I clearly outline that we do) this generates hate and intolerance in you.
So much so that you can not even acknoweledge that a proper biblical response from a Christian should follow what you yourself have more or less outlined. But rather than be on side, you drag out the stereotype that all Christians are hate mongers, and assign that picture to all of Christianity and begin to argue strawmen of your own design, rather than speak to what I have said.
This makes you the worst type of hypocrite. One who openly uses bigotry and hate to try and offset the bigotry and hate that you yourself whip up. Hitler did this against the Jews. He like you took what a very small number of Jews were doing and applied it to every man woman and child of that race, despite what they really thought or believed. Because he like you Didn't care what actually going on. he saw an opportunity to persecute, and he took it.
So good job "thinker." I guess your going to count this as another 'win?'
Wow. Way to completely fuck up everything I was saying! Rather impressive, actually. Beat that strawman up well....c'mon, KICK IT!
Your entire objection to me is illogical, for a reason that you, ironically, pointed out yourself. Why would I mean "all" Christians, when I have pointed out what Christian doctrine actually says? Clearly, I am referring to the vocal radicals who feel that their personal religious beliefs entitle them to reach into the lives of people not of their own churches and make misery in the lives of those who are different.
At no point do I say or suggest that every Christian does this. I am engaged to be married to one who does not, and whose famliy once thought that way but have since moderated their views quite nicely. My own parents, while still actively anti-gay as Believers, have matured enough in their beliefs to have recently attended a gay service of an old family friend they know.
The phrase "Yet they're not there" simply means that the same ones I see harassing gays don't bother me or anyone like me, making them hypocrites and assholes.
Invoking Godwin's Law here makes you a pretty big asshole, by the way. Even if I really had been saying that every Christian does that (again, I'm not, and not even close by any reasonable observer's standard), you guys are the overwhelming social majority, enjoy most of the political power in this country, and have houses of worship on almost every other street corner in this country. There's a massive one right across the street from where I am sitting, that takes up the view of every window on that side of the apartment. For this in any way to equate to what the Nazis did, I would have to be a member of a powerful social and political majority (hint: that's you) making a sweeping misrepresentation of a powerless minority (hint: that's me), in a way that suggested to others that perhaps it was time for the majority to put a stop to or otherwise harass/suppress/eliminate the minority.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.